Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ
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Well you can claim anything you want the shroud to say, such as that Jesus and Mary are both Saviors.
A couple of simple questions.
Is Mary, God?
Did Mary need a savior?
Tong
R0705
Well on the Shroud its says she is Coredemptrix, and she is the other light to Jesus. A shared light!
Its all true Mary can save. . . It was whispered over the centuries! There was a Dogma on it, but it never got voted on. Maybe now they can! Now the Shroud is proof she is sharing in the redemption. Mary has her own promises!!
My theory is she is God's queen.
Co-Redemptrix - Wikipedia
I think of Jesus and Mary as my real Parents!
Shes the Woman in Genesis 3:15... and so many people are against her! I feel sad for them!
When you have the Shroud its like the ultimate proof! God show you and they still blind. I'm just glad God gave me eyes and ears.
All I ask these guys is why don't you know Mary? They all tell me the preprogrammed response that their pastor told them to say. Why would you listen to them
Its all true Mary can save. . . It was whispered over the centuries! There was a Dogma on it, but it never got voted on. Maybe now they can! Now the Shroud is proof she is sharing in the redemption. Mary has her own promises!!
My theory is she is God's queen.
Co-Redemptrix - Wikipedia
I think of Jesus and Mary as my real Parents!
Shes the Woman in Genesis 3:15... and so many people are against her! I feel sad for them!
When you have the Shroud its like the ultimate proof! God show you and they still blind. I'm just glad God gave me eyes and ears.
All I ask these guys is why don't you know Mary? They all tell me the preprogrammed response that their pastor told them to say. Why would you listen to them
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Here are the pictures you posted. That's a photo of a part of the shroud of Turin showing the supposed imprints of the anterior side of the dead body of Jesus, with labels of your interpretation of what images you see there, right?
Now, try to see your blunder there regarding the misuse of Psalms 45:9. A blunder that even the event horizon thing or event will not explain away.
Tong
R0706
So what are your answers to my simple questions?
Is Mary, God or Deity?
Did Mary need a savior?
Tong
R0707
Tong, The kings daughters were there? I left that part out.. to show you there was a Queen at his R-hand.
I got Father Alosious book and it said the only difference between people and Saints were how much faith. Wow, I like that!
I don't know yet Tong what God did for Mary. I did see they are united like a Marriage.
The Symbol above.. Cross +M + 2 hearts in heaven. That's her logo on the Miraculous Medal! Mary gave that design to Catherine. She was afraid people would say she was special so she never revealed this until her life was almost over. Mary told her to be 'Confident'. Which is my word for special! It bothered me she waited so long to tell her story.
Being special must of bothered her a lot. I'm having that confidence in all this story! I want a lot of graces.. and even those nobody asks for!
I bought a Gold one (MM) in late 2009-- soon after I got a fully paid for house in 2010. And I was dirt broke..(lost my job, too). Like housing all crashed really bad in that year! I did buy 2000 oz of Silver in 2004 at $4 an oz. By 2011 it was worth $40+ so I sold it all. And I did pray for financial help! There were other big financial things that happened too (won a law suit for 75K for my eye fusarium fungus & it was God who must of inflicted me?) (bad event was good event in disguise) For housing to crash and silver go wild was a miracle to me during that time. So this story was an example how fast God helps! That $200 MM was worth every penny!! I wear it around my neck on a nice Gold rope chain. I wear it with Confidence! Then 8 years later I could decode the Shroud. And I didn't really finish my report until 6/2020.
Now I plan to give all my money to God (Assoc of MM) for my beloved back!
The only question I had to answer was how can I prove its you Jesus! Then I saw his Sacred Heart but didn't understand yet what it meant! It meant it was him!
The Jews would say science can't answer who it is. And probably could never! I couldn't stand that! I said no to that! I would ask God how can I tell! And I kept looking at his candles covering his arms! Then I saw it.. but didn't know yet what it meant until Dec 2018. . like a flash God said in my mind that's how u know its me! Then I said wow!!!!! If it took me 20 years to see it... and everyone else 2000 years!!! We're all going to be lucky now! Well the fire was 1500's so 600 years to see it.
I heard a prophecy Jesus comes back after 2000 years which is around now. Could this be how he comes back?
I got Father Alosious book and it said the only difference between people and Saints were how much faith. Wow, I like that!
I don't know yet Tong what God did for Mary. I did see they are united like a Marriage.
The Symbol above.. Cross +M + 2 hearts in heaven. That's her logo on the Miraculous Medal! Mary gave that design to Catherine. She was afraid people would say she was special so she never revealed this until her life was almost over. Mary told her to be 'Confident'. Which is my word for special! It bothered me she waited so long to tell her story.
Being special must of bothered her a lot. I'm having that confidence in all this story! I want a lot of graces.. and even those nobody asks for!
I bought a Gold one (MM) in late 2009-- soon after I got a fully paid for house in 2010. And I was dirt broke..(lost my job, too). Like housing all crashed really bad in that year! I did buy 2000 oz of Silver in 2004 at $4 an oz. By 2011 it was worth $40+ so I sold it all. And I did pray for financial help! There were other big financial things that happened too (won a law suit for 75K for my eye fusarium fungus & it was God who must of inflicted me?) (bad event was good event in disguise) For housing to crash and silver go wild was a miracle to me during that time. So this story was an example how fast God helps! That $200 MM was worth every penny!! I wear it around my neck on a nice Gold rope chain. I wear it with Confidence! Then 8 years later I could decode the Shroud. And I didn't really finish my report until 6/2020.
Now I plan to give all my money to God (Assoc of MM) for my beloved back!
The only question I had to answer was how can I prove its you Jesus! Then I saw his Sacred Heart but didn't understand yet what it meant! It meant it was him!
The Jews would say science can't answer who it is. And probably could never! I couldn't stand that! I said no to that! I would ask God how can I tell! And I kept looking at his candles covering his arms! Then I saw it.. but didn't know yet what it meant until Dec 2018. . like a flash God said in my mind that's how u know its me! Then I said wow!!!!! If it took me 20 years to see it... and everyone else 2000 years!!! We're all going to be lucky now! Well the fire was 1500's so 600 years to see it.
I heard a prophecy Jesus comes back after 2000 years which is around now. Could this be how he comes back?
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I noticed you use images and videos to convey your intent. The problem is you watch "videos" and use them as hard evidence. These videos have script and actors and do NOT relate the exact content of the Bible like the "scriptures" do.
If you need video to intake what is scripture from God, then at least watch videos with "word for word" account of the scriptures...
God Bless!
It means nothing to me unless you put the time and what you want me to know he had said.
Its like posting 10 pages of scriptures and saying find what I'm talking about.
What I' m saying here is you can tell who this man is by decoding the water stains he put there in the 1500's. I was an x-ray tech in life, and this is like an x-ray buddy. Its just like an visible soft tissue x-ray image of Jesus Christ! No man can make this. The Candle gives off light! I' m 1000% certain who this man is now and Mary's role in religion.
Its like posting 10 pages of scriptures and saying find what I'm talking about.
What I' m saying here is you can tell who this man is by decoding the water stains he put there in the 1500's. I was an x-ray tech in life, and this is like an x-ray buddy. Its just like an visible soft tissue x-ray image of Jesus Christ! No man can make this. The Candle gives off light! I' m 1000% certain who this man is now and Mary's role in religion.
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You didn't use the "reply" button, so I can only guess you were talking to me.
What I am saying to you Brian, is use the video link I had provided, to watch the "word for word" gospel of LUKE. This is a good way to get the actual scriptures inside of you, using video.
Those other videos that you have posted are NOT word for word scriptures.
God Bless!
no name peoples,
Right now I'm picking and choosing the scriptures I want to discuss. Psalms45:9. Douay.
Look at Mary's Immaculate heart behind the BVM image.
I even see the roses.. going across it. (compare to one above) And I see the sword handle!
Right now I'm picking and choosing the scriptures I want to discuss. Psalms45:9. Douay.
Look at Mary's Immaculate heart behind the BVM image.
I even see the roses.. going across it. (compare to one above) And I see the sword handle!
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So to the question "Who said that the dead Jesus hovered in the tomb between the two sheets pulled tight? Scriptures or men?", the answer is men said so and not scriptures. That such was what men guessed could have happened. Well, what else could it be but no more than a guess. I am inclined to think that you really don't know what you are saying is a "two image Event Horizon" thing. Am I right?
Tong
R0711
If I told you what your error is, is your mind and heart open for repentance regarding this matter on the shroud of Turin and be corrected? Why do you not answer this? Are you afraid to know you made a mistake?
And I thought you said in this forum that you love it when people ask you questions. But why don't you answer, even the simple questions? I ask the following questions and like to know your answers.
1. Is Mary, God or Deity? Why do you not answer this? Is that too hard a question for you?
2. Did Mary need a savior? Why do you not answer this? Is that too hard a question for you?
3. What happened to about a hundred pounds mixture of myrrh and aloes on the burial cloths used to wrap the dead body of Jesus?
4. Scriptures speaks of "cloths", plural, meaning more than one piece. Evidently, one would be that was used to wrap around Jesus' head and the other (may be more than 1) would be that used to wrap around His body. So, how do you explain that there is only a single cloth (shroud of Turin) that supposedly wrapped around the entire body of Jesus including the head part?
I made them big and bold and red so you won't miss them.
Tong
R0712
God was powerful he could put the sword thru Mary's heart on his Shroud... and roses across her heart.
Seeing that sword handle tells me its Mary's heart there.
If people don't believe now that's on them.
My God is more powerful.. than your without Mary religion.
Seeing that sword handle tells me its Mary's heart there.
If people don't believe now that's on them.
My God is more powerful.. than your without Mary religion.
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