Shall we discuss this?

[2 Chr. 34:19]

Correct.

That was a manifestation of the omnipresent bodily person of Jesus after he was resurrected and made a quickening spirit.

He is omnipresent bodily, right now, as a man, and all of what his God consists of is inside his quickening spirit body.

He Is omniscient now. His Spirit lives on in His believers

 

[kcnalp]

so without a doubt Jesus is the Holy Ghost, God IN FLESH.

PICJAG.

Amen brother!

 

[Taken]

so without a doubt Jesus is the Holy Ghost, God IN FLESH.

PICJAG.

Jesus is: the;
Lamb,
Manifestation,
Son,
Word,
Truth,
Way,
Righteousness,
Teacher,
Light,
Forgiver,
Maker,
Salvation,
Slain,
OF God...
Jesus IS the one who Offers mankind a multitude of things and blessings.

Christ is: the;
Lord,
Power,
Holy Spirit,
Wisdom,
Quickener,
Seed,
Christ IS the one who Delivers to a man who has Accepted Jesus' Offerings.

Jesus, God, Holy Spirit...ONE:
...^......^.....^
Lord....God..Almighty



God Bless,
Taken

 

[Enoch111]

so without a doubt Jesus is the Holy Ghost, God IN FLESH.

You have been promoting this MODALISTIC HERETICAL NONSENSE for a very long time. It is about time you learned and held to the proper understanding of the Godhead. And you really have no excuse, since there has been much presented on this subject.

1. God the Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit
2. God the Son is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit
3. God the Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son

These are three DISTINCT DIVINE PERSONS in ONE Godhead.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is good that you never omit the son of God in any prayer, but that is not what the OP is about.

The OP is clearly saying that Jesus has a God, which rhetoric must be incorporated in all Christian theology and modern rhetoric as it was commonly spoken in the 1st century church.

We should say, "the God of our Lord Jesus Christ" etc, on a day to day basis.

I do not think I denied that Jesus has a God, I know very few people who do

 

[Eternally Grateful]

GINOLJC, to all.
his name is actually yeshua or Joshua (I believe) correct, here is what transliteration is. look at this link "What is transliteration?"
What is transliteration?


if you see it different, well let the bible change your mind. you said, "The word was god. (Jesus is God)". and Jesus was "WITH" God right?... well lets see if this is true. you have TWO ERRORS here and lets look at both.

#1. "The word was a god". scripture, Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."

well that just killed the notion you have, that the WORD a. is a god, and b. this god, small case was "WITH God. the "Word" being a "god", lower case "g" in god is over with. the bible clearly rprove that false notion. now what about Jesus being "a" God? upper case "G" in God? let's check the record and see if this is true?.

#2. "the Word was a God?" Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." well that just got the upper case "G" in God also. and at the same time any separate person who is God.

Eternally Grateful, let us reveal to you who and what God is in a plurality of ... "HIMSELF". God, who is JESUS... Hebrew, YESHUA, is THE, not a, but THE "equal Share" of his ownself in flesh, did you see we used the term "THE" vs "a", that's very important in describing God . and this is supportive by, and clearly Identify by the Greek word G243 Allos, "ANOTHER", not G2087 heteros in ANOTHER, but G243 Allos in "ANOTHER". do you know the difference? if not we suggest you use the Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words to read the definition. it give an excellent, and we mean an excellent understanding on both words and how they are used.

Now if you have any question concering what we have said in this post or any other post we have made, AND YOU WANT TO DISCUSS, AND NOT ARGUE, THEN I'M GAME.

PICJAG.

The trinity in the OT
Isaiah 48:12–16 (NKJV): Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.
13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,
They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken;
Yes, I have called him,
I have brought him, and his way will prosper.
16 “Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
Have sent Me.”

 

[Truther]

I do not think I denied that Jesus has a God, I know very few people who do

They sure don't acknowledge it though....

 

[Truther]

He Is omniscient now. His Spirit lives on in His believers

Amen.

 

[Truther]

I didn't ignore OP.



"They"? OP words didn't say much to form an opinion on "Those" words.



Not sure What you think is Broken and needs Fixing.

The OP verses are summarily ignored by Christendom's teachers.

I think they should be he pivotal verses to all Godhead teaching.

We must include Jesus' God in all Godhead conversation instead of ignoring these verses.

The world is watching us....

 

[Truther]

And neither is this.

John 1 The Word was God,

Rev 21 And they will be tormented day and night FOREVER and EVER.

Are you sure you're not JW?

No, of course not.

Just a brother reading John's writings literally and astonished of how they contradict Christendom's teachings.

The status quo is straight up RCC in their Godhead ideas.

 

[Truther]

Christ has a God because He became a man like us. It is the same with saying Christ died. If we are to be consistent, it is wrong to say God died, the divinity that is. Only that part of Him (humanity) that was capable of dying suffered death. We sometimes abuse the term God to refer to one of the persons of the Holy Trinity, but the distinction needs to be understood.

Strictly speaking, the term God refers to the divine nature (essence), which is one and common (shared) among the three divine hypostasis (persons), Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

So God became a man with a God???

This is a role play.

God has a "human nature"?

Please explain how a Spirit God has a human nature, and what it's effect on Him is?

Is this weakened nature attached to Him fully or partially?

 

[Renniks]

Folks disagree with the 3 verses of the OP.

They cannot imagine greeting folks like Paul did in Eph 1:3.

Have you ever heard anyone greet a congregation etc., with "the God and Father of our Lord Jesus...".

No, they run from such first century language.

Probably because we don't live in the first century. People in general don't necessarily understand about Yahweh being God.

 

[Renniks]

So God became a man with a God???

This is a role play.

God has a "human nature"?

Please explain how a Spirit God has a human nature, and what it's effect on Him is?

Is this weakened nature attached to Him fully or partially?

Why do you ask silly questions as if you can understand the incarnation?

 

[Truther]

It is no more strange than the Father declaring the Son to be God in Hebrews 1.

Fact is, God is inside Jesus' omnipresent body now, qualifying Jesus as his inner God by default.

This happened to Jesus' human spirit after his God resurrected it(him) from the dead.

 

[Truther]

phil 2 is

What? I don't know what you mean here. That God wasn't conflicted?

Phil 2 is about the last Adam thinking it not robbery...

Not, God thinking it not robbery....

 

[Truther]

You don't have any idea about me.

Would you like to? I don't mind sharing.

I've come to use the KJV most of the time, but I also use a number of other translations, and also go to the Greek and Hebrew Manuscripts. The Septuagint is simply a Bible translation, just like the KJV, except it was translated by those to whom Ancient Hebrews was not a dead language, unlike those translating it today, who only know it as a dead language.

So if you want to limit your study to a single English translation, sure, you can do that. But that's not what I do. So if we come up with different answers to things, that may have something to do with it.

Much love!

Who defines the manuscripts you use when you leave the KJV reservation?

Do you trust them explicitly as they contradict or redefine the KJV, or do you do your own personal translating as an ancient Greek translator?

 

[101G]

You have been promoting this MODALISTIC HERETICAL NONSENSE for a very long time. It is about time you learned and held to the proper understanding of the Godhead. And you really have no excuse, since there has been much presented on this subject.

1. God the Father is neither the Son nor the Holy Spirit
2. God the Son is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit
3. God the Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son

These are three DISTINCT DIVINE PERSONS in ONE Godhead.

firsyt thanks for the reply, second ERROR,
if it is three persons, the person in John 1:3 (the Son, the Word), is the same person in Isaiah 44:24, the LORD, if not prove me wrong.

your move.

PICJAG.

 

[Truther]

Probably because we don't live in the first century. People in general don't necessarily understand about Yahweh being God.

Or the fact that Jesus has a God still, and that has not changed since Jesus and the Apostles stated such.

 

[101G]

The trinity in the OT
Isaiah 48:12–16 (NKJV): Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last.
13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth,
And My right hand has stretched out the heavens;
When I call to them,
They stand up together.
14 “All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear!
Who among them has declared these things?
The Lord loves him;
He shall do His pleasure on Babylon,
And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans.
15 I, even I, have spoken;
Yes, I have called him,
I have brought him, and his way will prosper.
16 “Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
Have sent Me.”

First thanks for the reply, second, that's not a TRINITY, let us prove it. "And now the Lord God and His Spirit Have sent Me".

ok Eternally Grateful, is the Lord God here in Isaiah 48:16, the Father? YES or NO

your move, meaning your answer. ..... (smile).

PICJAG.

 

[Truther]

Why do you ask silly questions as if you can understand the incarnation?

I actually understand it better than most teachers...to a fault.

I think of things they inadvertently teach before they teach it.

Like when Jesus was made by a divinely created sperm cell to mate with Mary's egg cell, creating both the son of God and the son of man(David).

Incarnationists are aghast to find this out...that Mary was the biological mother of God's flesh....AKA, mother of God.

I just gave you the missing clue of how Mary got her RCC stature.

Thank me later.