Is baptimal regeneration biblical?

[DNB]

Baptism is a covenant with God. By His power. Wherein a person formally declares their devotion to Him and takes on His name, and embraced by Him.

ok, should be interesting to see if he is keeping tabs?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

ok, should be interesting to see if he is keeping tabs?

Haha. I daresay God knows what's going on ;)

 

[DNB]

There are no denominations in the Bible only the one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18 you have no authority to read the Bible and make doctrine for yourself, there is only one faith eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 and you have to be taught!


We must be taught by Peter, the apostles, and their successors! Lk 10:16 Matt 28:19 Jn 21:17

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

only Peter and the apostles and their successors have the teaching authority of Christ with the guarantee of the Holy Spirit! Matt 16:18 matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Jn 8:32 Jn 16:13

No, the Bible is the paradigm. Scripture is sufficient for teaching, rebuking, exhorting and training in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16).
Your doctrines are man-made, in that you will only accept the testimony of an alleged apostle, irrespective of the heterodox nature of his teachings.

 

[theefaith]

Teaching authority of the Apostles and their successors in the church founded in the one true founded by Jesus Christ!

Jesus Christ is the head of the church, (eph 5:23) the body of Christ,
(col 1:18) the new and eternal covenant, (pre-figured Jer 31:31) (Heb 8:8) new covenant replaces the Mosaic covenant, (Heb 8:13) Christ replaces David as king, (Lk 1:32-33) Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men, (1 Tim 2:5 & Heb 12:24) but a mediator remains on earth mediating between God and His people, but Christ ascended to heaven, (acts 1) before He did He founded His church, on Peter, and the apostles, and their successors!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

We must be taught by Peter, the apostles, and their successors! Lk 10:16 Matt 28:19 Jn 21:17

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Teaching authority of the Apostles and their successors in the church founded in the one true founded by Jesus Christ!

Jesus Christ is the head of the church, (eph 5:23) the body of Christ,
(col 1:18) the new and eternal covenant, (pre-figured Jer 31:31) (Heb 8:8) new covenant replaces the Mosaic covenant, (Heb 8:13) Christ replaces David as king, (Lk 1:32-33) Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men, (1 Tim 2:5 & Heb 12:24) but a mediator remains on earth mediating between God and His people, but Christ ascended to heaven, (acts 1) before He did He founded His church, on Peter, and the apostles, and their successors!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

We must be taught by Peter, the apostles, and their successors! Lk 10:16 Matt 28:19 Jn 21:17

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Again: how do you know that a person is truly Peter's successor?

 

[DNB]

Point is, to be baptized into Christ, which is, as you said, being baptized in the Spirit, entirely overrides and relegates to the realm of obsolete, being baptized in water.
I'm glad that you now have learnt to distinguish the varied usage of Baptism in the Bible. Water baptism foreshadowed the Spirit's baptism, that was its sole significance - the necessity to become cleansed, and only Christ can do that, no water or detergent in the world.

This is absolute anti-Biblical nonsense.

I have shown you verse after verse that speaks of the necessity of WATER Baptism.
- Jesus said that you cannot enter into Heaven unless you have been born again of WATER and Spirit (John 3:5).
- Peter said that WATER Baptism SAVES you (1 Pet. 3:21).
- Peter told the crown that they must be WATER Baptized for the forgiveness of their sins and to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38).

On the other hand - YOU say that they were lying.
YOU go YOUR way - and I'll go with Christ . . .[/QUOTE]
...just make sure that you bring a bathing suit and a towel.

 

[DNB]

Haha. I daresay God knows what's going on ;)

...indeed, ...but holding one accountable for it is where I cannot see the rationale?
Just like James said that 'you will know then by their works' (paraphrase). I can't imagine that he had baptism in mind - but rather, on the contrary, meaning, it's entirely insignificant on how we will be judged.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

...indeed, ...but holding one accountable for it is where I cannot see the rationale?
Just like James said that 'you will know then by their works' (paraphrase). I can't imagine that he had baptism in mind - but rather, on the contrary, meaning, it's entirely insignificant on how we will be judged.

A disciple is indeed responsible for their actions: "If you love me, keep my commandments" and all.

 

[DNB]

A disciple is indeed responsible for their actions: "If you love me, keep my commandments" and all.

Yes, agreed, ...but, do you think that water baptism is one of those commandments?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Yes, agreed, ...but, do you think that water baptism is one of those commandments?

Yes.

 

[DNB]

Yes.

ok, thank you!

 

[DaChaser]

Ummmmm, talk about DENIAL . . .

Tell me - WHAT part of the following is "pathetic exegesis" regarding Baptism?
Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost.

Is it the part "washing of regeneration" - or the one about "renewing of the Holy Ghost"??

Spiritually done when the sinner becomes saved by receiving Jesus as Lord!

 

[theefaith]

Ez 36 God says accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior?

or

Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put withi n you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
(baptism)

John the Baptist came preaching accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior?

or

by baptism prepared the way for Christ!
(prepared the way for Christian baptism)

acts 2 Peter says accept Jesus as your personal lord and savior?

or

Act 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.(Baptism)

1 pet 3:20-21 accepting Jesus as your personal lord and savior is salvation?

Or

1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark and the church there is no salvation!)

 

[theefaith]

CYRIL OF JERUSALEM
“If any man does not receive baptism, he does not have salvation.

St. AUGUSTINE
“There are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptism, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance; yet God does not forgive sins except to the baptized” (Sermons to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15 [A.D. 395]).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Spiritually done when the sinner becomes saved by receiving Jesus as Lord!

And according to the Bible - this is accomplished when we are WATER Baptized (John 3:5, Acts 2:38, 1 Pet. 3:21).

As I have stated repeatedly - as does Scripture - water is the MEANS by which we received the Holy Spirit in Baptism.