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Sure, but Revelation 12 also has the repeating pattern that hast to be taken into account. Vs 4 Stars of heaven cast to earth Vs 4 devour her child Vs 6 woman fled into wilderness Vs 7 war in heaven between dragon and Michael Vs 9 Dragon cast out of heaven to the earth Vs 13 persecuted the...

I agree, I think there is an obvious recap starting in Revelation 12 or end of chronological order in Revelation 11. I think most everyone sees that. However some people have the third woe being the Revelation 12:12 woe. Do we just dismiss that and say the Revelation 12:12 woe isn’t the third...

Fair enough, sometimes I reply to a post just to try and see what methods others are using to come to their conclusions. I might not agree with their conclusions but if their method is solid then I usually don’t argue against their conclusion. In other words I try to give others the space to...

I wasn’t just agree with @claninja. I understood what he was talking about, I gave an opinion on what I thought might be possible way of determining what is chronological and what is recapping. We weren’t in agreement on anything other than what might be possible but needs further analysis...

Well, I think generally speaking, Premil tend to interpret in a literal manner and Amil in a spiritual manner. I get it that sometimes a person may make arguments using hermeneutics that favor their position but when the next topic comes up those same hermeneutics work against them. When...

Those are all good points you make. If I were to speculate on an answer as to why only the beast and fp are in view Rev 19 while only Satan is in view in Rev 20, I would say they weren’t working in unison at that time. In Rev 12 only Satan is in view, in Rev 13 he gives his power, seat, and...

When using that method, what happens when a conflict between an external framework is encountered? For example in Revelation 11:7 the beast ascends out of the bottomless pit and in Revelation 20:7 Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit. We could say that is a repeated event and a thematic...

I’ve been following along here, and that’s an interesting question. What about applying death as the end of a chronological sequence and/or life as the beginning of a new sequence? In Revelation 4 verse 10 we have Him that sat on the throne lives forever and ever, life. Rev 6, end of sixth seal...

Let’s assume Micah 4:3 is talking about literal weapons being recycled into farming equipment. Where would Joel 3:10 take place? In that verse they beat their plowshares into swords and pruning hooks into spears, then in verse 15 the sun and moon will be darkened, and the stars no longer shine...

Ok, I have had some Premils tell me there will not be Chess, Checkers, laser tag, type games in the millennium because war won’t be learned. I think it’s fair to limit the scope of war being learned to governmental military type operations. But, let’s not forget about terrorist and organized...

How can Micah 4:3 ever be fulfilled in a literal manner, this age or a Premil millennium? The Bible never passes away and the Bible contains detailed descriptions of war. How can war not be learned anymore literally? I think you’re going to have to argue that people don’t have free will if you...

We know this, the Holy Spirit teaches us all things. 1 John 2:27 … but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Two believers, both with the Holy Spirit teaching them all things, can have vastly...

That’s a good point you bring up, if we take Micah 4 literally it can’t be taking place currently because governments are still at war and learning war. In Joshua 8:1-35 Joshua used a war tactic, specifically an ambush, in the battle against Ai. Since His words will never pass away, how can...

Hold on, I’m not accusing you of saying some of the things Jesus said, which aren’t written, are not important at all. I came to the conclusion that you think the things that Jesus said that aren’t written down are also not important for faith and practice. Faith and practice only. Is that...

Hold on, I’m not accusing you of saying some of the things Jesus said, which aren’t written, are not important at all. I came to the conclusion that you think the things that Jesus said that aren’t written down are also not important for faith and practice. Faith and practice only. Is that...