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    PreTrib Question

    (kriss;32145) Agree with Jag here there is no scripture that says that in fact the seals are not even in order there is no gathering to Lord until the 7th trump we are told in 2 Thess that the man of Lawlessness that Son of Perdition (these are names for Satan) must come first and he doesnt come...
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    PreTrib Question

    (followerofchrist;32142) Alright, I'm convinced. There is no Pre-tribulation rapture. I could study the bible my whole life and I don't think I would know half the things it has to teach me. God commands us to seek Him ALWAYS. He will teach you all that you need to know if you seek Him with ALL...
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    PreTrib Question

    (thesuperjag;32132) 100% Yes. There is no scripture saying that Christ will come back before Satan comes back.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world. Why am I getting it wrong?Jesus will rescue the believers as explained in Rev. 7, and Satan will be here on Earth...
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    PreTrib Question

    (kriss;32126) First lets understand there are two tribulations or at least two parts The first 5th/6th trump is Satan coming to earth as the Antichrist (that is claiming to be christ) This is Satan's tribulation, this is to separate the wheat from the chaff or the true believer from the false...
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    PreTrib Question

    (followerofchrist;32108) By pre-wrath do you mean pre-trib? Because the tribulation is not Gods wrath, its his final attempt to get humankinds attention. No, I don't know how you see things, but it's my understanding that we will be spared from God's wrath, for we are not appointed to wrath, but...
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    Roots of Rapture - Origins of the Rapture Theory

    (toddsumrall.com;32006) When God refers to any tribe he is referring to Jews from the loins of Abraham that make up the nation or Israel, physical Israel. Judah and the northern tribes make up Israel. Two nations from the loins of one Jacob. When God speaks of Ephraim and Manasseh he speaks of...
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    PreTrib Question

    (kriss;31870) There is no scripture that teaches Pre- Trib rapture I have studied this in depth for yearsthere is only men who twist scripture to try to see what is not said. Their main scripture they use is 1 Thess. 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them...
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    PreTrib Question

    (followerofchrist;31864) scroll down to defending the pre-trip rapture section and get your fill of reading. I believe you will find all you want on pre-trip rapture beliefs Thanks for the link, but that is what I was trying to avoid, because they make it so complicated that you know less at the...
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    PreTrib Question

    (Faithful;31848) I have to say I have often thought that too. There is none to say this.Faithful.:angel7: Have you study this issue/topic before and what caused you to believe what you believe?
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    PreTrib Question

    What Scripture do those that believe in the Pre-tribulation rapture use to claim that they will not go through the 70th week of Daniel?I hope I asked this right.
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    Introduction

    Hello,I just wanted to study about the end-times and I'm leaning towards the Pre-Wrath believe, but I'm open to hear reasonable BIBLICAL arguments from any point of view, this will assist me in making the right choice.I love to debate the scriptures in a passionate, yet civilize manner with the...