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    Messiah 2030

    I can look at apostacy 2 ways. In one it is the literal ,which means I am with God , and in covenant with him, and depart from that position,I become apostate. ( those ones literally departing something become one with this world, rejecting God) The other is just looking at the sinful world...
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    Messiah 2030

    Not to be obtuse, but it is saying we are promised seventy, and if strength brings you you to 80 ...then you have 80 years under your belt. Then you die...fly away.
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    Messiah 2030

    No Look around We are in the great apostacy. Next is either the rapture or the revealing (not yet in power) of the AC The AC arrives with a bow in his hand. God said the bow is his Covenant. Bow represents covenant.
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    Messiah 2030

    The apostacy The revealing of the AC The rapture of the church ALL PRETRIB. The ac is REVEALED....not in power,Reread it. Exactly as Obama was. Anyone with a sliver of discernment knew he was evil way before he was elected. Obama....revealed...before he took power AC.... Revealed...before he...
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    Messiah 2030

    Apostacy in the greek translated "departure" or "from standing" Has nothing to do with the world. It is a departure from the faith...of the faithful, not the ungodly getting worse.
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    Messiah 2030

    The great apostasy proceeds the Antichrist revealed. Paul was writing to the body of Christ when he said that the Antichrist would be revealed. The white horse rider in revelation is the Antichrist revealed. He is the one that Kick off the great tribulation. Just like Obama was revealed and...
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The lie of no rapture before Darby
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    This video discusses the pretrib rapture views and debunks the notion it originated with Darby.
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    Messiah 2030

    He is amil. Different bible. Amil goggles used on every verse
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    VULTURES

    Amil uses a different bible. One of us is chopping wood The other working on a car. No common ground All the bible is viewed or skewed. Amils should have their own threads. I can not make those grand canyon amil leaps.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    If you will not listen to reason, then yes , apply your formula. Just keep in mind that In any investigation, going with impossibilities, that could have been noted and shelved , brings you into a rabbit trail 100%of the time. Postrib rapture is a excellent example of ignoring the impossible...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    ...except the AC kills all the saints. The BIBLE says "ALL TAKE THE MARK". factor that in. Btw...Paul classified those born again. *Babies *Mature *Carnal. * Spiritual They can be carnal, and still saved. Paul addresses this in 1 cor.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    True Every word. Otherwise there are 2 Holy Spirits. And it is impossible. The bible is not a book of tricks, with some hidden gospels that some elite group can only claim truth. Jesus said " my sheep hear my voice" Hyper paulines put Paul ahead of Jesus. No wonder they DO NOT HEAR HIS...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Rev 14:14 A superb doctrine destroyer. Once it is on the table, unmolested, un modified, un tortured, only pretrib rapture fits like a glove. Nothing else comes even remotely close. A thread killer big time. But of course the Ole personal attack card can keep things rolling.... Lol