Mind of the Spirit, and the mind of the flesh

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I posted this some years ago, and here it is again . . .

Mind of the Spirit / Mind of the Flesh

The question was recently asked, “What is the soul?”, and, along with this, “What is it that gets regenerated when someone is born again?”

I am hoping this study may contribute towards answering these questions.

To begin with, we’ll look at Romans 7:14-25.

I’m going to attempt to visually diagram the statements that Paul makes in this passage, to try to better portray the roles and relationships he outlines.

(14) For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Paul begins with a contrast between two things, “I”, and “the Law”. “The Law is spiritual”, but “I am carnal” (of flesh, that is, non-spiritual).

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So we have two different elements, the spiritual Law, and the non-spiritual flesh “me”. And the flesh-me, rather than relating to the spiritual law, has been “sold under sin”.

(15) For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.

My actions are a mystery to me. On the one hand, there are things I intend to do, what “I will to do”, but that’s not what I do. Instead, I do the things “I hate” to do.


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While I am “carnal, sold under sin”, and what I do is what “I hate”, just the same, this is not what I want to do, what I intend to do. So I am conflicted, and I do not reflect a unified nature.

(16) If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.

Because I hate those things that the carnal “me” does, I demonstrate my agreement with the Law. The “Law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.” Even so, the “I will to do” part aligns with the spiritual law, not the fleshly “sold under sin”, that does “what I hate.”

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I agree with the Law, that it is good, and I want to do what is good. Then again, I am carnal, sold under sin, doing what I hate.

(17) But now, it is no longer I who do it,
And now Paul begins to show the solution to this equation. “It is no long I who does ‘what I hate’”. “I” who “will to do” that which agrees with the Law, am not the person who does “what I hate”. Paul puts a dividing line between these.

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“I will to do” who agrees with the Law is in fact different from “carnal sold under sin”. I am “I will to do”, while “carnal sold under sin” is committing the evil that I hate.

However, this is not the entire picture, as anyone can guess!

Find more in the PDF if you wish.

Much love!
 

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Scripture explains scripture.

We are to love God with all our strength, soul and spirit.

Comparing Romans 7:25 and Galatians 5:17, mind and spirit are the same thing. Some translators erroneously capitalized spirit in Galatians 5:17, but it is our own spirit/mind that is in conflict with our carnal nature when one does not have the Holy Spirit in them. When you DO receive the Holy Spirit you are not under the law and your own soul and spirit have been reborn. The body must wait until it dies to be resurrected anew.

That leaves soul equating to heart, and strength to body.
 

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The mind of the flesh refers to the mind standing on the side of the flesh and being ruled by the flesh. The mind of the spirit refers to the mind standing on the side of the spirit, cooperating with the spirit, being ruled by the spirit, and minding the spiritual things.


For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Now the mind-set of the flesh is death, but the mind-set of the Spirit is life and peace.
 
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I posted this some years ago, and here it is again . . .

Mind of the Spirit / Mind of the Flesh

The question was recently asked, “What is the soul?”, and, along with this, “What is it that gets regenerated when someone is born again?”

I am hoping this study may contribute towards answering these questions.

To begin with, we’ll look at Romans 7:14-25.

I’m going to attempt to visually diagram the statements that Paul makes in this passage, to try to better portray the roles and relationships he outlines.

(14) For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Paul begins with a contrast between two things, “I”, and “the Law”. “The Law is spiritual”, but “I am carnal” (of flesh, that is, non-spiritual).

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So we have two different elements, the spiritual Law, and the non-spiritual flesh “me”. And the flesh-me, rather than relating to the spiritual law, has been “sold under sin”.

(15) For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.

My actions are a mystery to me. On the one hand, there are things I intend to do, what “I will to do”, but that’s not what I do. Instead, I do the things “I hate” to do.


View attachment 17206
While I am “carnal, sold under sin”, and what I do is what “I hate”, just the same, this is not what I want to do, what I intend to do. So I am conflicted, and I do not reflect a unified nature.

(16) If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good.

Because I hate those things that the carnal “me” does, I demonstrate my agreement with the Law. The “Law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.” Even so, the “I will to do” part aligns with the spiritual law, not the fleshly “sold under sin”, that does “what I hate.”

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I agree with the Law, that it is good, and I want to do what is good. Then again, I am carnal, sold under sin, doing what I hate.

(17) But now, it is no longer I who do it,
And now Paul begins to show the solution to this equation. “It is no long I who does ‘what I hate’”. “I” who “will to do” that which agrees with the Law, am not the person who does “what I hate”. Paul puts a dividing line between these.

View attachment 17208

“I will to do” who agrees with the Law is in fact different from “carnal sold under sin”. I am “I will to do”, while “carnal sold under sin” is committing the evil that I hate.

However, this is not the entire picture, as anyone can guess!

Find more in the PDF if you wish.

Much love!


good subject

these are what Jesus says you have

Mar_12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

strength being your body and anything else at your hand you can do.

when God made the man the man became a living soul.(Gen 2:7)

but that soul died after the tree. and its the Spirit (Holy Spirit) that quickeneth that dead soul.