One Like The Son Of Man

Eyeball Dub · Apr 4, 2026

Water is formless just like the earth was formless in the beginning. The spirit is also formless that's why it is likened to water which is also formless. The man, fish and mammals are called "souls" or "vessels" in which the spirit are contained.

Revelation 17:15 ESV And the angel said to me, "The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages.

Genesis 1:1-2 ESV In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. (2) The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Genesis 1:6 ESV And God said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."

Genesis 1:20-21 ESV And God said, "Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the heavens." (21) So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:30 ESV And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so.

Genesis 2:9 ESV And out of the ground the LORD God made to spring up every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

1 Corinthians 15:45-47 ESV (45) Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. (46) But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. (47) The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.

Acts 2:17 ESV "'And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;

Eyeball Dub · Apr 4, 2026

Your soul is your spiritual body, together with the Holy Spirit they reside in your physical body. That is why they would say "You have a beautiful soul".

1 Corinthians 15:45-47 ESV (45) Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. (46) But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. (47) The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven.

Davy · Apr 4, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
It says there John was fearful.

Revelation 1:17-18 ESV When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, "Fear not, I am the first and the last, (18) and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.

I guarantee, if you suddenly were given a 'vision' of the Heavenly by God, with His hand reaching out and touching you, you would definitely go to ground in reverence and fear. Still does not mean that God does monsters like some Hollywood movie on pagan mythology.

Davy · Apr 4, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
Water is formless just like the earth was formless in the beginning. The spirit is also formless that's why it is likened to water which is also formless.

Not what the Hebrew of Genesis 1:2 says. The "without form, and void" phrase in the KJV is not a correct translation of the Hebrew tohu va bohu.

Eyeball Dub said:
The man, fish and mammals are called "souls" or "vessels" in which the spirit are contained.

Man's spirit is not the same idea of the spirit of plant and animal life on earth. Man's spirit is about the other type body all flesh-born people have, a spirit body, the heavenly body Apostle Paul called the "spiritual body" in 1 Corinthians 15, which is the resurrection type body. Our soul is our 'person', the part that makes us each an individual. It is permanently attached to our spirit body. Our spirit body with soul leaves our flesh body at death of our flesh body.

Eyeball Dub said:
Revelation 17:15 ESV And the angel said to me, "The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages.

Jesus was pointing to the beast kingdom of Revelation 13:1 that will come up out of the "sea" of waters, and involves ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns, a beast kingdom over the whole earth.

Eyeball Dub said:
Genesis 1:1-2 ESV In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. (2) The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Genesis 1:1, in the beginning, God created His PERFECT EARTH.
Genesis 1:2, something happened and caused the earth to become a waste and a ruin, the actual meaning of the Hebrew tohu va bohu phrase there mistranslated to "without form, and void." Genesis 1:2 shows a flood of waters covering the whole earth underneath, revealing the earth was already there, having been created at Genesis 1:1 in the beginning.

Eyeball Dub said:
Genesis 1:6 ESV And God said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."

In the KJV, it is pointing to the firmament, the sky around the earth. God took a portion of the existing waters that were already covering the earth, and moved them up to form today's sky atmosphere around the earth. The rest of the waters of verse 2 He left upon the earth.

In Genesis 1:9, God moved the waters left upon the earth around until the dry land underneath appeared. This was not a creation of the earth, for God had already created the earth back at Genesis 1:1.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 4, 2026

Davy said:
Gen 19:1-5
19 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

These are the two witnesses of Revelation 11, they are also the sons of God in the book of Job.

Job 1:6 ESV Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.

Matthew 11:23 ESV And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.

Matthew 11:24 ESV But I tell you that it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom than for you."

H4397
מלאך
mal'âk
mal-awk'
Strong Definition:
From an unused root meaning to dispatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically of God, that is, an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher): - ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 4, 2026

Davy said:
Genesis 1:1, in the beginning, God created His PERFECT EARTH.
Genesis 1:2, something happened and caused the earth to become a waste and a ruin, the actual meaning of the Hebrew tohu va bohu phrase there mistranslated to "without form, and void." Genesis 1:2 shows a flood of waters covering the whole earth underneath, revealing the earth was already there, having been created at Genesis 1:1 in the beginning.

God did not create a PERFECT EARTH in the beginning, because if it was so it would be indestructible.

1 Timothy 6:16 KJV Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

John 1:18 KJV No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Daniel 2:44 ESV And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever,

Revelation 21:1 ESV Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 5, 2026

Davy said:
Not what the Hebrew of Genesis 1:2 says. The "without form, and void" phrase in the KJV is not a correct translation of the Hebrew tohu va bohu.

Man's spirit is not the same idea of the spirit of plant and animal life on earth. Man's spirit is about the other type body all flesh-born people have, a spirit body, the heavenly body Apostle Paul called the "spiritual body" in 1 Corinthians 15, which is the resurrection type body. Our soul is our 'person', the part that makes us each an individual. It is permanently attached to our spirit body. Our spirit body with soul leaves our flesh body at death of our flesh body.

An unborn child is already alive in the mother's womb even before having awareness, i think it is the same if you are a spirit. Another thing, a spirit doesn't have sensations of pleasure and pain because it doesn't have a spiritual body or soul. The sensations of pleasure and pain are only possible if the spirit does have a spiritual body or soul. The animals in Genesis are symbolic, because the Serpent has the ability to speak.

Davy · Apr 5, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
An unborn child is already alive in the mother's womb even before having awareness, i think it is the same if you are a spirit. Another thing, a spirit doesn't have sensations of pleasure and pain because it doesn't have a spiritual body or soul. The sensations of pleasure and pain are only possible if the spirit does have a spiritual body or soul. The animals in Genesis are symbolic, because the Serpent has the ability to speak.

I'd really like to help you in understanding the Scriptures more perfectly. You have many things misapplied.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 5, 2026

Davy said:
I'd really like to help you in understanding the Scriptures more perfectly. You have many things misapplied.

Genesis 2:4-7 KJV These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, (5) And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (6) But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. (7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The face of the earth is 70 percent water, the human body is also 70 percent water, when we are thirsty we drink water. Water is important for life.

Fred J · Apr 7, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
Catholic means "universal". The religion I practice is the totality of all religions woven into one centered on Jesus Christ. I was born Roman Catholic.

Your testament happens to be of astray false Christianity opposed to Jesus Christ's grace and truth in the New Testament for Salvation and the body of Christ.

We're built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets in the Holy Bible and not by catholic church or any other church.

As GOD made a promise to Prophet Ezekiel that HE will one day personally shepherd HIS own people referred to lambs and sheep, despising man hired shepherd and no longer placed over HIS people.

We now in the body of Christ have 'brethren' and 'elders' who'll bring to our remembrance and stir up of memory all that is written in the Holy Bible 'prophesying' in 'edification'.

Jesus' teaching does not support your claim therefore is 'heresy', claiming that all religion woven into one centered on Jesus Christ.

All religions of 'Heathens' who're not with the true GOD, are deceived by satan and are demonic, who's 'disguised as an angel of Light', without them knowing and realizing it.

Sacrifices offered regularly to their 'idols' as 'gods' they believe and follow since their fathers, are actually offered to 'demons' since it's the kingdom of satan.

Jesus Christ came to 'break' that 'web' or 'chain' Heathens and even the Jews are 'bound' with, where apparently a thief who 'steal, kill and destroy' in disguise have had them all in sin 'coiled' or 'chained'.

satan who met Jesus in the wilderness, boldly even offered Jesus the world and it's glory he built and owns, and him to be worshiped.

Revelation according to Apostle John is written, that satan and his angels banished from Heaven, and have come down to deceive the 'inhabitants of the earth'.

And moreover the angels cried, 'Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabitants of the earth.................'

For the Son of GOD Himself had to lay down His Divine Majesty and eternal life, risking coming down to the kingdom of satan and transgressed men bound by him, opposed and not complying in any of them.

Even Himself had to be 'smitten' as an 'accursed person hanging on a tree', because for 'all' of our 'transgressions'.

Besides these are the written 'truth' according to the Holy Bible, haven't you a 'clue' from the same 'text' what really GOD thinks about 'idols'??

And like Heathens the catholic church themselves erected 'idols' as 'Christianity gods and goddess', which apparently originated following Greek mythology gods, and worshiping them as well.

Therefore is obvious why you who represent the catholic church testify carelessly that, all religion are woven into one centered on Jesus Christ, and are equally yoked.

2 Corinthians 6:
14. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath Light with darkness?
15. And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath He that believeth with an infidel?
16. And what agreement hath the Temple(body of Christ) of GOD with idols? for ye are the Temple of the living GOD; as GOD hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their GOD, and they shall be My people.
17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18. And will be a FATHER unto you, and ye shall be My sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Repent!

Fred J · Apr 7, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
Psalms 82:6-8 ESV I said, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; (7) nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince." (8) Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!

I have a theory that these Sons of God are from another planet before the Earth was made. They are also called "morning stars, sons of the morning", these are galaxies with their own Suns. They do not look exactly like angels because they are the big ones. The Earth was made for them to re-establish the harmony with God that was broken, that's why there is a need for a religion, to reconnect them to God, religion means "to tie again". My dad used to tell me about a book called "Chariots of the Gods" by Erich von Däniken, it's about having life on other planets. My theory is based on Bible passages, just like the theory of relativity by my idol Albert Einstein.

Genesis 1:1-2 ESV In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. (2) The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Revelation 17:15 ESV And the angel said to me, "The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages.

Job 38:4-7 ESV "Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. (5) Who determined its measurements--surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? (6) On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, (7) when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Isaiah 14:12 KJV How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

H1966
הילל
hêylêl
BDB Definition:
Lucifer = “light-bearer”
1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer
1a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (figuratively)
2) (TWOT) ‘Helel’ describing the king of Babylon

Revelation 22:16 ESV "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star."

Genesis 1:27 ESV So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

Revelation 21:2 ESV And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 2:26-28 ESV The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, (27) and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father. (28) And I will give him the morning star.

"If you want your children to be intelligent, read them fairy tales. If you want them to be more intelligent, read them more fairy tales" -Albert Einstein

You are all over and getting nowhere, and have not come to the point, is written that 'angels are made in the image of GOD'.

Angels are referred as 'sons of GOD' but not referred to have been 'made in the image of GOD', and they serve and worship GOD in Heaven.

At the same time, GOD commands the angels to serve man on earth who are 'made in HIS image' and 'are gods to whom the Word of GOD came', likewise who multiply and subdue the earth.

And not man serve angels in reversal, thank you.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 11, 2026

Fred J said:
Your testament happens to be of astray false Christianity opposed to Jesus Christ's grace and truth in the New Testament for Salvation and the body of Christ.

We're built on the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets in the Holy Bible and not by catholic church or any other church.

As GOD made a promise to Prophet Ezekiel that HE will one day personally shepherd HIS own people referred to lambs and sheep, despising man hired shepherd and no longer placed over HIS people.

We now in the body of Christ have 'brethren' and 'elders' who'll bring to our remembrance and stir up of memory all that is written in the Holy Bible 'prophesying' in 'edification'.

Jesus' teaching does not support your claim therefore is 'heresy', claiming that all religion woven into one centered on Jesus Christ.

All religions of 'Heathens' who're not with the true GOD, are deceived by satan and are demonic, who's 'disguised as an angel of Light', without them knowing and realizing it.

Sacrifices offered regularly to their 'idols' as 'gods' they believe and follow since their fathers, are actually offered to 'demons' since it's the kingdom of satan.

Jesus Christ came to 'break' that 'web' or 'chain' Heathens and even the Jews are 'bound' with, where apparently a thief who 'steal, kill and destroy' in disguise have had them all in sin 'coiled' or 'chained'.

satan who met Jesus in the wilderness, boldly even offered Jesus the world and it's glory he built and owns, and him to be worshiped.

Revelation according to Apostle John is written, that satan and his angels banished from Heaven, and have come down to deceive the 'inhabitants of the earth'.

And moreover the angels cried, 'Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabitants of the earth.................'

For the Son of GOD Himself had to lay down His Divine Majesty and eternal life, risking coming down to the kingdom of satan and transgressed men bound by him, opposed and not complying in any of them.

Even Himself had to be 'smitten' as an 'accursed person hanging on a tree', because for 'all' of our 'transgressions'.

Besides these are the written 'truth' according to the Holy Bible, haven't you a 'clue' from the same 'text' what really GOD thinks about 'idols'??

And like Heathens the catholic church themselves erected 'idols' as 'Christianity gods and goddess', which apparently originated following Greek mythology gods, and worshiping them as well.

Therefore is obvious why you who represent the catholic church testify carelessly that, all religion are woven into one centered on Jesus Christ, and are equally yoked.

2 Corinthians 6:
14. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath Light with darkness?
15. And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath He that believeth with an infidel?
16. And what agreement hath the Temple(body of Christ) of GOD with idols? for ye are the Temple of the living GOD; as GOD hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their GOD, and they shall be My people.
17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18. And will be a FATHER unto you, and ye shall be My sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Repent!

I like the Muslim religion but I do eat bacon, to me bacon is symbolic not the literal bacon. Jesus was a holy man, prophet in Islam and the Bible also confirms that there are mysteries in the spiritual and we are to believe all things according to Paul.

Revelation 10:6-7 KJV And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: (7) But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

1 Corinthians 13:7 ESV Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

1 Corinthians 13:9-10 ESV (9) For we know in part and we prophesy in part, (10) but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.

1 Corinthians 13:12 ESV (12) For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

In the end we will see the whole picture. I am a non-denominational Christian.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 11, 2026

Fred J said:
You are all over and getting nowhere, and have not come to the point, is written that 'angels are made in the image of GOD'.

Angels are referred as 'sons of GOD' but not referred to have been 'made in the image of GOD', and they serve and worship GOD in Heaven.

At the same time, GOD commands the angels to serve man on earth who are 'made in HIS image' and 'are gods to whom the Word of GOD came', likewise who multiply and subdue the earth.

And not man serve angels in reversal, thank you.

You need to define who angels are because I think "the angels" in Psalm 82 are not the same angels in Isiah 6.

Isaiah 6:1-3 ESV In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of his robe filled the temple. (2) Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. (3) And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory!"

Psalms 82:6-8 ESV I said, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; (7) nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince." (8) Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!

Seraphim do not die but the Sons of God did die.

H4397
מלאך
mal'âk
mal-awk'
Strong Definition:
From an unused root meaning to dispatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically of God, that is, an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher): - ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

Pierac · Apr 16, 2026

1) “Son of Man” = simply a human being

This is the most basic, literal meaning.

Example: Book of Ezekiel

God repeatedly addresses the prophet as “son of man” (over 90 times).

The Hebrew phrase (ben adam) literally means “human one” or “mortal.”

Text-only observation:
Here, the phrase emphasizes human limitation in contrast to God. It is not a title of status—it’s a reminder of weakness and creatureliness.

2) “Son of Man” = a symbolic figure representing humanity (or Israel)

Example: Book of Daniel (Daniel 7)

Daniel sees “one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.”

This figure is:
- Given authority
- Given a kingdom
- Set in contrast to beast-like empires earlier in the chapter

Text-only observation:

The “son of man” figure appears human-like, unlike the beasts.
He represents either:
- Human rule restored, or
- A collective (the “saints of the Most High”), since later the text says the saints receive the kingdom.

So in this context, the phrase shifts from “just a human” → to a representative human figure with authority.

3) “Son of Man” = a self-designation used by Jesus Christ

Example: Gospel of Mark (and others)

Jesus uses “Son of Man” more than any other title for himself. The usage falls into three patterns:

A. Ordinary human role

“The Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head.”
→ emphasizes human experience (poverty, suffering)

B. Authority on earth

“The Son of Man has authority to forgive sins.”
→ indicates functional authority, not explicitly defined metaphysically

C. Future/exalted figure

“You will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds…”
→ echoes Daniel 7 imagery

Text-only observation:
Jesus appears to deliberately merge the meanings:

human being
suffering figure
authoritative agent
future cosmic figure

The text itself does not pause to define the term—it assumes the reader will connect these layers.

Synthesis (Text-Only, No Theology Added)

Across the Bible, “Son of Man” consistently carries a core meaning of “human”, but expands depending on context:

Context	Meaning
Ezekiel	A mere human (emphasizing limitation)
Daniel	A human-like figure with authority, possibly collective
Gospels	A multi-layered self-reference combining humanity, authority, suffering, and future exaltation

Key Non-Biased Conclusion

If you strip away later theological systems and just read the text:

The phrase never loses its root meaning: “human”
But it can scale upward:
- from ordinary human →
- to representative human →
- to exalted, authority-bearing human figure

The ambiguity is intentional in the text. It allows the phrase to operate simultaneously on earthly, symbolic, and visionary levels without explicitly resolving into a single fixed definition.

Fred J · Apr 21, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
I like the Muslim religion but I do eat bacon, to me bacon is symbolic not the literal bacon. Jesus was a holy man, prophet in Islam and the Bible also confirms that there are mysteries in the spiritual and we are to believe all things according to Paul.

Apparently you love and accept things blindly.

In islam, Jesus did not die on the cross, GOD has no son, and Jesus was just a prophet.

And this is the testament of someone having the spirit of anti-Christ.

Fred J · Apr 25, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
You need to define who angels are because I think "the angels" in Psalm 82 are not the same angels in Isiah 6.

Isaiah 6:1-3 ESV In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of his robe filled the temple. (2) Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. (3) And one called to another and said: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory!"

Psalms 82:6-8 ESV I said, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; (7) nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince." (8) Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!

Seraphim do not die but the Sons of God did die.

H4397
מלאך
mal'âk
mal-awk'
Strong Definition:
From an unused root meaning to dispatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically of God, that is, an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher): - ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

Angels die??

Biblically when the last one died??

Even to the ones disobeyed GOD during Noah's time, were 'imprisoned' whom Jesus ministered to.

Fred J · Apr 25, 2026

Eyeball Dub said:
Psalms 82:6-8 ESV I said, "You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; (7) nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince." (8) Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!

The Son of GOD is the Word of GOD who became man Jesus Christ in the Gospel, and requoted this verse as referring to the people of Israel that day.

John 10:
34. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your laws, I said, Ye are gods?
35. If HE called them gods, unto whom the word of GOD came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Even though they're gods to whom the word of GOD came, they're still 'mortal men', whom shall die like other mortal men to whom the word of GOD did not come.

Only according to the Gospel and New Testament in context, this perishable mortal body in the twinkling of an eye will be change to the unperishable immortal body, and will be taken up to live for eternity.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 27, 2026

Fred J said:
Apparently you love and accept things blindly.

In islam, Jesus did not die on the cross, GOD has no son, and Jesus was just a prophet.

And this is the testament of someone having the spirit of anti-Christ.

I think the New Jerusalem is not the old Jerusalem, not Islam nor Judaism.

Revelation 21:1-2 ESV Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. (2) And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Eyeball Dub · Apr 27, 2026

Fred J said:
Angels die??

Biblically when the last one died??

Even to the ones disobeyed GOD during Noah's time, were 'imprisoned' whom Jesus ministered to.

The sons of God are spiritual beings they are not human beings.

Psalms 82:1 ESV A Psalm of Asaph. God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:

Eyeball Dub · Apr 27, 2026

Fred J said:
The Son of GOD is the Word of GOD who became man Jesus Christ in the Gospel, and requoted this verse as referring to the people of Israel that day.

John 10:
34. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your laws, I said, Ye are gods?
35. If HE called them gods, unto whom the word of GOD came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

Even though they're gods to whom the word of GOD came, they're still 'mortal men', whom shall die like other mortal men to whom the word of GOD did not come.

Only according to the Gospel and New Testament in context, this perishable mortal body in the twinkling of an eye will be change to the unperishable immortal body, and will be taken up to live for eternity.

John 5:24 ESV Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

One Like The Son Of Man

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1) “Son of Man” = simply a human being​

Example: Book of Ezekiel​

God repeatedly addresses the prophet as “son of man” (over 90 times).​

2) “Son of Man” = a symbolic figure representing humanity (or Israel)​

Example: Book of Daniel (Daniel 7)​

Daniel sees “one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.”​

3) “Son of Man” = a self-designation used by Jesus Christ​

Example: Gospel of Mark (and others)​

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A. Ordinary human role​

B. Authority on earth​

C. Future/exalted figure​

Synthesis (Text-Only, No Theology Added)​

Key Non-Biased Conclusion​

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1) “Son of Man” = simply a human being

Example: Book of Ezekiel

God repeatedly addresses the prophet as “son of man” (over 90 times).

2) “Son of Man” = a symbolic figure representing humanity (or Israel)

Example: Book of Daniel (Daniel 7)

Daniel sees “one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.”

3) “Son of Man” = a self-designation used by Jesus Christ

Example: Gospel of Mark (and others)

A. Ordinary human role

B. Authority on earth

C. Future/exalted figure

Synthesis (Text-Only, No Theology Added)

Key Non-Biased Conclusion