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I Berean said:

After checking out a few Christian Forums, I‘ve concluded this is the one for me.
Looking forward to browsing and reading interesting threads; to learn, and to post occasionally.
See y’all on campus.

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Quoting verses, what do you believe is required of someone today to enter Heaven tomorrow ?

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Looking forward to the conversations @I Berean ….

The Beroeans were a good example to follow.

I Berean said:

After checking out a few Christian Forums, I‘ve concluded this is the one for me.
Looking forward to browsing and reading interesting threads; to learn, and to post occasionally.
See y’all on campus.

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Hello, I Berian. How are you? We are well . Thank you for making us your choice. We hope you will find it worthwhile.

We love you, Walter and Debbie

I Berean said:

Wow, cutting right to the chase.
John 3:3
John 14:6
2 verses are enough of an answer for a simple question; vital, be that as it may.

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1 Cor 15v1-4, Eph 1v13 are what Paul teaches is required to be saved today.
In Gal 2v7-9 John taught that he had a different audience to teach than Paul.
According to those verses who teaches you the Gospel ?

shepherdsword said:

Is Jesus your Lord?
Do you follow Jesus?
Do you do the things Jesus commands?
Do you understand that the mystery of the gospel was that it was also for the gentiles and was the same as Jesus' gospel?

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Your answers to my 4 questions are ?

shepherdsword said:

I deny that Jesus, Peter and Paul taught different gospels. And your answer to mine?

Is Jesus your Lord?
Do you follow Jesus?
Do you do the things Jesus commands?
Do you understand that the mystery of the gospel was that it was also for the gentiles and was the same as Jesus' gospel?

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What is your yes or no response to these easy 4 questions ?
- Do you deny there are dispensations in the Bible ?
- Do you deny that Jesus selected Paul to teach the Gentiles ? Acts 9v10-15
- Do you deny that John, Peter recognized that Paul was to go the gentiles and they not? Gal 2v7-9.
- Do you claim that Peter etc already knew the Gospel spoken of in Gal 2v2, Gal 1v11-12 ?

shepherdsword said:

Welcome brother and blessings. You will find that there is an errant hyper-dispensationist group on the forum that do not follow Jesus but only Paul. Instead of reconciling the words of Jesus and Paul, they divide them into a teaching that ignores the very words of Jesus himself. They teach that Jesus and Paul had two different gospels.

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Why give the new person the wrong impression?
The difference is not in substance but as to who the ministry focused on.
I think you know that Christ Himself said I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Yeshua's ministry was to offer the Jews salvation first, which was only right. In that ministry were certain Jewish natures and customs, like worshiping on the Saturday Jewish Sabbath in the Temple....sacrifices....You remember the instance with the money changers. And their observance to some Mosaic Laws.

The reconciling is the process of salvation that is the same for both ministries.

But there were changes.....lots of them.....Yeshua directed the Apostles Paul's ministry to the Gentiles. Yeshua never said you had to be a Jew first (circumcision} before you could be a Christian, but the Jewish-Christians were insisting on it and harassed Paul's ministry over it. That was settled at the first Christian Council in Act 15. The Apostle James issued a letter. That letter did not say the Jewish-Christians had to change and it did not say the Gentile-Christians had to change.

So the Jewish-Christians and Gentile-Christians practiced the faith differently. Notable differences with the Gentile-Christians....
The Jews did not allow Gentile-Christians in the Temple.
Gentile-Christians did not continue to sacrifice animals.
For Gentile-Christians circumcision had no religious significance.
The Gentile-Christians did not observe Jewish dietary guidelines.
The Gentile-Christians did not adopt the Jewish letter of divorcement process.
The Gentile-Christians brought their customs into Christianity, notably the wedding ceremonies.
The Gentile-Christians eventually changed their weekly holy day to Sunday, the Lord's Day.
The Gentile-Christians worshipped Yahweh and Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit---the helper, became the conduit of divine communication---Pentecost.
Ultimately the Jewish-Christians died out and the Gentile-Christian took over the helm of the Church.
The Apostle Paul defined Christian theology in detail.

The difference is in the practical. Yeshua was not going to tell the Jews that had multiple wives that they had to divorce some of them to be Christian. And in fact neither Yeshua or the Apostle Paul put an end to polygamy or concubinage. But polygamy and concubinage was not a custom of the Pagans. So the Gentile-Christians had little interest in it.