@quietthinker So you really are that gullible. You are naive at best. The words are, consider your opposers.
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Big Boy Johnson
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Actually that's not true.
They are moslems who follow islam which demands the murder of Christians and Jews.
Self defense is not a sin when Christians and Jews defend themsevles
The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed, and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. It’s one book. And it's the same God of both the Old and New Testament, and He is still the same God today, yesterday, and forever (Heb 13:8). The only difference between the old and new covenants is how God deals with humanity. After Jesus came along, He acts as the intermediary between man and God and intercedes on our behalf. That is why we currently live in an age of grace. But Jesus and the Father, of both old and new covenants, are one. What you are seeing are the different roles and facets of His character. God acts as a judge, and as a judge, he punishes evil. In this context, the conquest of Canaan was not a genocide, but it was God's judgment upon those nations for their wickedness.
You claim the Old Testament was filtered through the cultural lenses of the ancient Israelites, but isn't that what you're doing? Take the word "genocide," for instance, which is a relatively new word, coined in the twentieth century. Words shape our thoughts and beliefs. By saying what the Israelites did was a "genocide," it shows your worldview has been influenced by the modern culture, and you have filtered the Old Testament through that lens. This is a mistake. Either we believe what the Bible says, or we don’t.
According to Candace, Israel is the problem of all the ills in the world. It’s scapegoating of the highest order. Israel is not the one who let them into the Western world; it’s those governments. Particularly, the globalists that are the problem.
Yup, those are the ultra-orthodox Jews who ironically are anti-Zionists. But they base their belief not on the Torah but on the Talmud.
From what I gather, about a third of Jews in NYC voted for Mamdani, which isn’t a majority, but still too high. Secular Jews tend to be liberal, but Orthodox Jews tend to be more conservative. The latter are unfortunately outnumbered by the secular Jews.
Standard Palestinians are given to them weapons which they usually don't have. And the Mossad's intelligence is a joke.
Can't find this, can you validate this, providing her statement.
She does have certain issues with the political ideology of zionist gobalism
She has issues with the zionist globalists, which run with the political ideology of Israel, and states so here
Here is a list of groups I posted before of those assisting to bring in immigrants into the U.S and other countries for social welfare
The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS) and the following collaborate with HIAS on refugee resettlement efforts
The Hebrew Sheltering House Association, Hachnosas Orchim (which has merged with HIAS)
The National Council of Jewish Women (NCJW)
The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC)
For migrants heading toward the United States, a portion of the funding originates from U.S. taxpayers through various channels. U.S. contributions to United Nations agencies—$18 billion in 2022—help support migrants in transit, with specific U.N. programs budgeting $372 million in 2024 to assist 624,000 migrants traveling north toward the U.S. border through provisions like transportation, food, shelter, and legal advice.
Once migrants enter the U.S., taxpayer-funded agencies provide further support. The Department of Homeland Security spent approximately $38 billion on immigration-related activities in 2024, including $22 billion on Customs and Border Protection and $10 billion on Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Additional funding comes through humanitarian programs: over $770 million had been allocated by mid-2024 through the Shelter and Services Program (SSP) and the Emergency Food and Shelter Program to support communities hosting migrants, covering costs like food, shelter, and transportation.
Additionally, remittances sent by immigrants already in the U.S. play a critical role in supporting families in origin countries; in 2022, immigrants in the U.S. sent nearly $80 billion in remittances abroad, making the U.S. the largest source of such funds globally.
I asked more concerning these things in post #4 here
Alabama senator warns against allowing Shari'a Law in USA
He really tells it like it is including the treatment of women and children in Islamic countries.
www.christianityboard.com
And Hassidic Jews. Whereas the Karaite Jews are said to be the only Jews that do not use the talmud or the oral traditions at all and their numbers are the smallest number of all the Jews, the largest number of them residing in Israel but they are a mixed bag when it comes to support of zionism.
To me, they can all ressemble protestants differing between them as protestants in Christianity do, when it come to Candace, she is speaking of the ruling class of the same (the billionaire class) "the political idealogy"and/or the globalist order (you mention) at the heads of governments.
Its like Christian protestanism, divided up, and you can critique any branch of Christian protestanism among all the branches of it, but you cannot critique any branch among the Jewish divisions, because critiquing one= critiquing them all.
Regardless, natural branches are natural branches, whether secular or religious.
And these would be??
Rev 2:9 I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
And these would be??
Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
These would be the religious ones? or just be considered the secular ones pretending to be the religious ones located in the synagogue?
Big Boy Johnson
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Supporting islam against the Jews is a grave mistake as you will discover in the not too distant future.
I don't support Islam and I believe Israel's "mistakes" are lies ones funded [and supported]
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quietthinker
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The scripture tells us God does not change. He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. It is humans who have different perceptions of God the which they insist on projecting onto him.
God is the same in the OT as he is in the NT yet men interpret that sameness differently.
Objectively, Jesus is the unmitigated revelation of God. Miss this and everything is missed by distortion.
It’s a general analysis of all the things she’s said. She manages to blame everything on Israel, like the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
"Zionist globalists" is an oxymoron. Globalists don’t have an allegiance to any state or ethnicity. They are internationalists. Their ideology is influenced by Luciferianism more than anything. Any Jews that are globalists are Jews in name only. They have no affinity for Jewish tradition, religion, or country. Globalism is their identity first and foremost.
Oh, I’m sure there are many groups doing this, not just Jewish organizations. Catholic organizations, for one, have been assisting in both legal and illegal immigration. The U.S. House, for instance, has targeted Catholic Charities over their migrant aid efforts. And AG Ken Paxton in Texas has sued and accused the Annunciation House and Catholic Charities of harboring undocumented migrants and participating in human smuggling. I’m not picking on Catholics here, just using them as an example. If you read my original post, then you know some of the biggest foreign donors and lobbies are not Jewish. And more than a few are Muslim.
I’ve seen this verse used and abused so many times. John was talking about certain Jews of his day, but there’s no reason to believe it applies to every single Jew today, as some would infer.
I watch her daily, and I wouldn't say that. Obviously, Candace knew Charlie Kirk and was part of TPUSA earlier on and confesses what she knew on a personal level and has brought some of those things into it, but has backed them up with phone texts, group chat texts, which agree with his later media interviews (quite a few of which I posted here on this forum) which support what she personally knew concerning certain things.
For the greater part she has demanded full transparency, even of the full letter sent to Netanyahu (which just read a small sound bite as compared to what was in that letter) which actually validated parts of what she claimed, that Charlie could not do all Israel's PR for them, and mostly because it became increasingly difficult to do this seeing this new generation is not as impressed with Israel as the older generation was. And was not all in on this Gaza war.
Candace shows exactly what she is looking at, and puts all the same under the microscope. When you investigate so many things (along with examining the lies, and ommisions of the truth in this type of case) it could implicate those involved in it, just as it could the feds, and cause for further questions for TPUSA, which would not exclude the billionaire donors of TPUSA (most of which are Jews) and by extension Israel in some way (which is no secret). But she has not explicitly stated this, so are people understanding this by the evidences she has presented that is convincing them its Israel?
Even when you try to get AI to admit exactly how she has, after stating she supposedly has in some way and you press it, it will say, for example...
Candace Owens has not explicitly stated that Israel directly killed Charlie Kirk, but she has made serious allegations suggesting Israeli involvement or influence in his death. She claimed that Kirk was under pressure from pro-Israel interests...
See what it does there?
That's where I will ask, not explicity stated (of herself) but rather is claiming Charlie Kirk felt he was under pressure from pro-Israel, while the same is reflected in his interviews (some posted on this forum) as well as in the full leaked letter to Netanyahu (and how could not handle the PR for Israel by himself) and the intervention in the Hamptons with Jewish donors as well as an authenticated copy of a group chat text provided by the now head of TPUSA (which was provided initially to the government only) and later released to Candace (and authenticated openly by him) which she shows.
So it brings up the evidences presented and initially blame Candace for the suggestion herself omitting these things (lies by ommission)
And we can see in the way it answers
Candace Owens has not explicitly stated that Israel directly killed Charlie Kirk
I watch her, I havent heard where she did this, but the take away is that she supposedly did. Did it come from her explicitly, or what it is she was presenting, and if what she is presenting is convincing maybe its from those things and less from her?
I know people misquote her and/or misrepresent her (even on this forum) I would be happy to look at the words that come from her mouth, I think she tries very hard to be honest and be forthright about where she stands on a thing. I look for reasons to not watch things (I hate to tie myself to anything and before I started watching her daily I examined her in order to find fault with her but she had won me over because I couldn't.
If she tried to teach me what her church teaches her, I would click off, but she hasnt. I actually find her more honest than some of the people on this forum who target her with BS clips, who could care less whether what they post is the truth (whether in word, or in a video) or care if they just slandered people with lies. So I have a respect for her because of her way.
Wouldnt matter anyway, natural branches are natural branches, they would still be "all that are of Israel" who were not of the remnant (then present in Paul's day) regardless. Children after the flesh includes all that would fall under the flesh (if you ask me).
I had pointed the same out on another thread, but folks think they do not have part in that at all (whether voting in muslims or helping to ship them in). It's just "leveling up" some of the blame some folks are so willing to dish out to some while forgetting certain others.
So you are of the belief these verses referring to the Jews should be deleted (or ignored, rather) in the messages to the seven churches and that there are not those who call themselves Jews in our modern day that are not but who lie?
What do you do with these Luciferianism Jews (which you say are Jews in name only) then?
Unrelated , maybe Jesus should have said Lucifer instead of Satan?
I know people mish mash these things together.
Those people over there never went through the curses that Yah said would happen to Israel, and how we shall know them by said curses
Deuteronomy 28
Only one people
They left black and came back white
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Israel is Home to stay, in the Land of the Bible.
Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
Amen Jesus!
Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
Amen Jesus!
This is how I would paraphrase Amos 9:13-15: -
13 "Behold, the days are coming," says the Lord,
"When the ploughman shall overtake the reaper,
And the treader of grapes him who sows seed;
The mountain {i.e. the religion based on Christ} shall drip with sweet wine,
And all the hills {i.e. the other religious practices} shall melt and disappear.
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;
They shall repair the devasted and desolated places and inhabit them;
They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them;
They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in My fertile soil/field,
And no longer shall they be pulled up
From the fertile soil/field I have given them,"
Says the Lord your God.
This paraphrasing of the above three verses paints a very different picture to the one you have quoted.Shalom
Big Boy Johnson
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If you knew the scriptures better you'd know there a difference between the old covenant and the new covenant.
What's all this TOOTING? Oh that's right, it's JEALOUS Israel wannabees.
Well I'll go back to reading how God is BLESSING Israel, in the Land of the Bible.
Well I'll go back to reading how God is BLESSING Israel, in the Land of the Bible.
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