This poster is so defensive about his lack of spiritual gifts that he feels compelled to ridicule those who possess and manifest what he lacks.
Spiritual Gifts?
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That's interesting S.I.H., is there evidence that you can supply of those gifts ? eg can you load a video where in front of witnesses you turn dirt into gold ?
Well the term "Nicolaitans" DOES mean to conquer the laity. Since we know the Lord despised such exaltation it could have that meaning:
Mt 20:25-27
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister; And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
However, the better definition is probably the cult you spoke of (from Vincent's Greek treatise)
Perhaps the brother does have a genuine healing ministry but even the apostle Paul didn't have a 100% success rate in healing:
2 Ti 4:20 Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at Miletum sick.
soberxp
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soberxp
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I have my gift not for healing or see someone else mind and color of light.
But for me to talk with the Spiritual Gift.
Looks like whoever believe on Jesus Christ will not be alone.
*************The Holy Spirit had me operate in tongues, interpretation of tongues,******
If you were in a room of Australian Aboriginals who do not understand English would you be able to speak the Gospel to them in their language ?
I Berean
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As I said in my post, the Gifts of the Spirit, (1 Corinthians 12), are given as the Spirit wills.
Therefore, if He chooses, I would be able to speak in aborigine.
Incidentally, tongues, interpretation of tongues, and prophecy would be used mainly in a church or other public gathering for the edification of the saints.
Since you are quoting Paul he also taught that the tongues etc would cease which was confirmed when he lost his abilities.
Please link a verifiable video that demonstrates an independent person translating unknown tongues (not known earthly languages) in a Church setting today.
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@seer .........before you continue to lie more here on the forum........would you first post YOUR NT verse that states that "Paul lost his ability to speak in tongues"..
Start with this verse.... by Paul
1 Corinthians 14:18, "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than you all",
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As I understand it those with the gift of prophecy are able to see representations of spiritual things around them, often in relation with people. The visual representation may still require some interpretation. It would be like in with the game pictionary, but easier due to the Holy Spirit helping to lead them to the correct interpretation of what they are seeing.
I Berean
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“Since you (I), are quoting Paul…”
First off, I’m quoting the Word, which became Flesh.
Browsing and posting as a new member I’ve been challenged, and also read many posts where posters choose to divide the HUMAN scribes of The Word into different factions, hence, different gospels. I intend to learn more. I’ve never heard of these “Pauline People.”
It seems, so far, that there are a lot from Australia. I’ll continue reading though; I find off the wall theology amusing.
At any rate, most cessationists hang their hat on 1Corinthians 13:8, particularly on the word ‘perfect.’
However, I have no interest in debating the point; believe what you want.
As far as digging up video evidence for you, and succumbing to your interrogation, don’t make me laugh.
Another observation, if I may? You Pauline People are high pressure types. Was this theological discipline created out of a used car lot? (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself).
If you’re really serious about tackling the cessationist slant, I recommend the following.
The Word that became Flesh taught Paul that the gifts would cease.
Pauls gift ceased
Perfect is completed Scripture
I Berean
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Explain why Paul lost his gifts.
List a video of people talking in UNKNOWN tongues being INDEPENDENTLY translated by others not known to them
2 things that happened to me- one night years ago I was in my room at my parent's house sitting on the bed praying (I was still living with them at the time). There was a bookcase in front of me full of christian books. Suddenly one of the books started flashing red, I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was of God, I felt like I should read that book! Also another time I was at a local church called Life Center for the annual Firestorm convention, this was during worship. Suddenly I saw a white arura around the man standing in front of me, I also knew that this was of God guaranteed, I do not know what the white arura meant.
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