Was Melchizedek Human?

NayborBear said:

Davy I've heard this before, yet i cannot believe that. As it states in verse 1 of Psalms 110:
"The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
And then further on is recorded:
4) "The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."
Meaning? Jesus Christ of Nazareth COULDN'T be Melchizedek, as The "Order" of that Priesthood was established long BEFORE hand!
There's a whole lot more TO the "Government of the Kingdom of God" that Jesus Christ of Nazareth bares (upholds) on His shoulder.

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The Scripture is very plain to me, but you're free to believe what you want to believe. That Jesus is God come in the flesh is a Salvation issue though, so this matter truly is too.

1 Timothy 3:16 (NKJV)
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Jesus is God!!!!!!!!!!

I also want to say, that Jesus was the Melchizedek that met Abraham, and that the Book of Hebrews suggests the order of Melchizedek existed Eternally, it cannot point to anyone else except God. And the fact that Hebrews 7 is pointing to God with those qualifications given in the Hebrews 7:1-12 verses, and later mentions that Lord Jesus is Who that is talking about, then like I pointed out, the role of Melchizedek points directly to Christ Jesus as God.

Davy said:

The Scripture is very plain to me, but you're free to believe what you want to believe. That Jesus is God come in the flesh is a Salvation issue though, so this matter truly is too.

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Like you stated to me: You can believe what you want. Based on your (personal?) interpretation.
But, I "see/view" things like this.
Traditions of men have exalted Messiah from being: GOD thinking it "NOT robbery" that Christ sit at His right hand side. TO: According to yours and many others interpretation/s that He: Christ is GOD ALONE!
So? Going down this path of (how can I say) "Interpretive Analysis?"
If Melchizedek was/IS the "Incarnate Christ" as you suggest/believe?
And Christ is GOD?
The conclusion is?
Melchizedek IS GOD!
Therefore?
There IS no "Order OF Melchizesek!"
Or? (GOD forbid)
The "Order of Melshizedek" should be renamed: "The order of GOD!"
Rendering this verse?:
Psalms 110:
4 The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek. =FALSE!
And that is a Camel I WILL NOT swallow!

I am stating this reply in my attempts at showing just how infiltrated Christianity has become by the adversary and how successfully they are "stripping away....little by little" the "Sovereignty of GOD!"

lforrest said:

That would mean Abraham met a Christophany twice. Once before executing judgement upon Sodom, and another with Malkizidech.

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So he met Mel when he was around 75-80 years old and later encountered the Lord with angels around 99. The Lord likely was in his glorified state so did not recognize Him IF Mel was in fact the Lord.???

NayborBear said:

Like you stated to me: You can believe what you want. Based on your (personal?) interpretation.
But, I "see/view" things like this.
Traditions of men have exalted Messiah from being: GOD thinking it "NOT robbery" that Christ sit at His right hand side. TO: According to yours and many others interpretation/s that He: Christ is GOD ALONE!

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Nah... that's a false assumption. Jesus is one Person in the triune Godhead of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. This is what The Bible declares too, so it's not my opinion.

Since your premise is false, and the rest of your post is based on that false premise, your post is all for naught.

Davy said:

Nah... that's a false assumption. Jesus is one Person in the triune Godhead of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. This is what The Bible declares too, so it's not my opinion.

Since your premise is false, and the rest of your post is based on that false premise, your post is all for naught.

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I take from your declaring? That you've not been around to very many, if any other churches where this is: if not outright declared, then certainly INSINUATED!
I don't think you really really realize how sad, yet very true this statement by John is:
1 John 4
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. ...

lforrest said:

Abraham recognized Mel's importance and give him a tenth of everything he had. Come to think of it, what would Jesus have done with herds and other valuables. Mel must have come with a royal entourage to manage that wealth, as it would likely be more than one man could handle. Or do we think the Lord spirited the tithe away?

Jesus has demonstrated the ability to hide himself in plain sight. So not recognizing him as God would be understandable, especially in what was potentially the first time he appeared to Abraham.

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Melchezedek means "King of Righteousness", "King of Salem". How could anyonenother than the Lord be King of Righteousness? He established an eternal Priesthood. Tithes and sacrifices for God are not needed by God, since He owns everythiing. They are for our benefit, to learn to give.
I am not sure about this, as I said from the beginning, he wasn't human, but an angel or the Lord.

"Melchizedek" is Hebrew:

מלך (melek) = King
צדק (tsedeq) = righteousness

I.e. "King of Righteousness"

He was an early king of Salem, i.e. Jerusalem. He was apparently not part of an order, rather he was directly appointed by God, as was Jesus:

"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has *appointed* me..." (Luke 4:18-19).

No reason to think Melchizedek was an angel.

NayborBear said:

I take from your declaring? That you've not been around to very many, if any other churches where this is: if not outright declared, then certainly INSINUATED!
I don't think you really really realize how sad, yet very true this statement by John is:
1 John 4
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. ...

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I don't think you have learned to 'discern' the 'spirits' AT ALL, but are just a scared little person mulling it through in fear. You made a FALSE ASSUMPTION about me, and I CORRECTED YOU, and now you want to keep MOCKING ME??? Your heart is not right with The LORD.

lforrest said:

That would mean Abraham met a Christophany twice. Once before executing judgement upon Sodom, and another with Malkizidech.

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Lord Jesus in John 8 did say that Abraham rejoiced to see Christ's day, and was glad. That means Abraham met Lord Jesus.

This is a spiritual matter that can only be understood by The Holy Spirit, and not by the flesh. So reading fleshy doctrine into it will immediately cause error.

Hebrews 7 makes the point that Melchizedek had no mother or father, nor beginning or end of days, which can only point to God, and definitely no flesh man. If it were about a flesh born man that met Abraham, then Hebrews 7 would cause an immediately conflict with the existence of Christ Jesus, for it would mean there exists 2 Saviors, and not just one.

Abraham's tithing to Melchizedek was PRIOR to the existence of the Levitical priesthood which is when tithes were started. And the fact that Melchizedek blessed Abraham reveals he was greater than Abraham. This is why Hebrews 7:13-14 makes the following point with declaring Lord Jesus is Who these things are being spoken about...

Heb 7:13-14
13 For He of Whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
KJV

Davy said:

I don't think you have learned to 'discern' the 'spirits' AT ALL, but are just a scared little person mulling it through in fear. You made a FALSE ASSUMPTION about me, and I CORRECTED YOU, and now you want to keep MOCKING ME??? Your heart is not right with The LORD.

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OK!
Here's a quote from someone on this forum from a completely different thread that I "stole." (ok...so sue me!... )

"Ok but is that not applied to any prophet or messiah. The Jews still believe the messiah is yet to come. Whereas Christ is not only the Messiah but God Himself."

So? What does this do or say concerning the "Father and Son and Holy Spirit?

So don't go spouting off concerning any "mocking" from me!

My heart is not only "right with the Lord?"
It's also "right" with He who Sent "the Lord!"

Can you say that?

I'd venture to say that My "discernment of spirits" are perhaps a bit more refined than yours?

Again, i believe that Melchizedek was a human being, a king of Salem in ancient day, and a priest who worshipped the GOD Most High.

i believe GOD sent him to bless Abraham, and even before the Law of Moses, Abraham knew to offer tithes to a priest of GOD Most High.

He's apparently a descend from one of Noah's son, proabaly blessed Ham, besides Shem whom Abraham descends from.

Sadly probably not a descend from Jabeth since Noah cursed him, as his descends became 'slaves' of his brothers and descends.

The writer to the letter of Hebrews that day did not receive such a revelation until now, that Melchizedek has a linage.

Biblically it is not tangible that an angel can be a king of a nation or city, and at the same time a priest of GOD Most High for the people.

Angels or ministering spirits are 'messengers' of GOD Most High serving the man of GOD on earth.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ