Why did Jesus pray to himself?
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PS95
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Jesus prayed to His Father in heaven. You seem mixed up?
But God is Jesus and Jesus is God. They are one-in-the-same. or so I'm told. Jesus and the Holy Spirit are both just God putting on a different outfit, so to speak. All three have eternally existed because, after all, all three are actually God. At least this is what most Christians teach.
So my question again is, why did God pray to himself?
PS95
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People who don't understand what they believe say wrong things. I see it on here often. Your question is one that Jws ask. Christianity does not teach that Jesus is His own Father. That's just stupid.
A lot of times the problem is that people use the name, Jesus- as if that was His name before becoming flesh. It was not. I see you just did that as well. His name wasn't Jesus until He was on the flesh on earth. I answered the question that you asked.
So do you have a different question?
Your question is theologically confused.
The Son of God prayed to the God the Father. Both are God, but they are not the same person. Because the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Christian do not teach that one God puts on 3 different outfits. God is one being in 3 persons.
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
PS95
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Ok I see your Q now-
Did God pray to Himself? No.
Jesus is God's unique SON. He was on the earth praying to His Father in heaven.
His mother was Mary and His Father is God.
So who do you say He is?
I say what the scriptures say- The Word was with God and was God.
He was in the beginning with God before anything was created. Nothing was created without Him.
He came down from heaven-
The Word became flesh. God with us.
They called him Jesus- meaning (YHWH is salvation)
He humbled Himself, emptied Himself and became a servant.
The fullness of God dwelt within Him.
God was in Christ reconciling Himself to us.
Great is the mystery of godliness....
Did God pray to Himself? No.
Jesus is God's unique SON. He was on the earth praying to His Father in heaven.
His mother was Mary and His Father is God.
So who do you say He is?
I say what the scriptures say- The Word was with God and was God.
He was in the beginning with God before anything was created. Nothing was created without Him.
He came down from heaven-
The Word became flesh. God with us.
They called him Jesus- meaning (YHWH is salvation)
He humbled Himself, emptied Himself and became a servant.
The fullness of God dwelt within Him.
God was in Christ reconciling Himself to us.
Great is the mystery of godliness....
That's what I thought but I've been assured that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all God. We should ask @Sheperdsword. His understanding is infallible.
PS95
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I don't know what shepherdsword believes But honestly- do you think it's a good idea to try to antagonize a brother in Christ?
I will just ask you this- If Jesus was here standing in front of you now- would you bow in complete worship of HIM?
I sure would!
Armour of God
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Why did Jesus pray to himself.
That's what I don't understand.
If Jesus and God are the same entity,
Then why is Jesus praying to himself.
It is more reasonable to say that Jesus and God are two separate entities, then it makes sense that Jesus is praying to God.
Otherwise if they are the same entity then it makes no sense that Christ is praying to himself.
After all Jesus claimed to be the son of God several times. How can one be son of himself or how can one be father of himself. Not possible. To me it's obviously 2 seperate entities, the father and the son
That's what I don't understand.
If Jesus and God are the same entity,
Then why is Jesus praying to himself.
It is more reasonable to say that Jesus and God are two separate entities, then it makes sense that Jesus is praying to God.
Otherwise if they are the same entity then it makes no sense that Christ is praying to himself.
After all Jesus claimed to be the son of God several times. How can one be son of himself or how can one be father of himself. Not possible. To me it's obviously 2 seperate entities, the father and the son
It would be nice if individuals who sincerely wanted to express their confusion, ask questions, and learn would do so politely.
Those who just want to stir up strife and mock the Bible are clearly seen.
As I've said before, you want to persuade others to your personal theology but are unwilling to be persuaded. Your arrogance is so immense that your ego forces you to reject the words of Paul because the truth doesn't fit into your warped and twisted theology.
PS95
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Jesus never prayed to Himself. He prayed to His Father in heaven.
See above
"Jesus" is the SON OF GOD. He prayed to HIs FATHER. Why can't you get that? "JESUS" was born with a body on the EARTH- He had a human mother---and His Father was God. Now if you can't comprehend this distinction- I'm not sure how else to make it clear.
Maybe if you asked better questions. If you are speaking about Jesus on earth that's one thing....
OR are speaking about the Word of God?
ARE you seriously questioning John 1:1 like a JW does?
Clear your head, will ya? lol ------ WHO WAS HIS DADDY?
Look- Since you can't seem to ask the right questions I will do it for you..
IS THE WORD OF GOD who was with God- GOD? answer YES. Did the WORD OF GOD BECOME FLESH AND PRAY TO HIS FATHER? YES.
As to your one entity comments- it is believed that the Father & Son are distinct persons.
They are one in "nature" or "essence"- meaning God nature- not human nature like us.
Does the Son now pray to the Father in heaven? No..
Armour of God
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The Holy Spirit is simply Gods spirit.
I understand that.
But I could never understand how Jesus can be God.
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Was everything spoken by Jesus or by the Father.
Can you distinguish those processes that are possible?
Does that matter though?
Just depends on who is asking.
PS95
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Romans 8
9However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
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