Reviving Biblical Christianity part 5 (The way)

Episkopos · Jun 26, 2026

In this fifth episode of a five-part series on reviving biblical Christianity we look into the deeper walk that goes through the gate of the Lord into holiness; with what it takes to go through the gate into the eternal realm of the kingdom of God, and what it takes to remain there.

shepherdsword · Jul 11, 2026

A couple of things were triggered in me when I watched this:

1) I always though the special category of "saint" was a RCC construct. However, we see the distinction so clearly here. Paul makes a distinction between saints and the faithful in Christ Jesus here:

Eph 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, (1)to the saints which are at Ephesus, (2)and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

2) I also saw something interesting in the 3rd phase where you mentioned "waiting" on the Lord. The Hebrew word for "wait" is "kaw vaw" which could also mean "binding together"

Isa 40:31 But they that wait (kaw vaw)upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

This can be further seen here, when Abigail counseled David:

1 Sa 25:29
Yet a man is risen to pursue thee, and to seek thy soul: but the soul of my lord shall be bound in the bundle of life with the Lord thy God; and the souls of thine enemies, them shall he sling out, as out of the middle of a sling.

Perhaps the 3rd phase is also a place were one comes into union with Jesus?

Episkopos · Jul 13, 2026

shepherdsword said:
A couple of things were triggered in me when I watched this:

1) I always though the special category of "saint" was a RCC construct. However, we see the distinction so clearly here. Paul makes a distinction between saints and the faithful in Christ Jesus here:

Eph 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, (1)to the saints which are at Ephesus, (2)and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

There are a number of places where both categories are compared...like here.

When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. 2 Thess 2:1

shepherdsword said:
2) I also saw something interesting in the 3rd phase where you mentioned "waiting" on the Lord. The Hebrew word for "wait" is "kaw vaw" which could also mean "binding together"

Isa 40:31 But they that wait (kaw vaw)upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

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This can be further seen here, when Abigail counseled David:

1 Sa 25:29
Yet a man is risen to pursue thee, and to seek thy soul: but the soul of my lord shall be bound in the bundle of life with the Lord thy God; and the souls of thine enemies, them shall he sling out, as out of the middle of a sling.

:)

shepherdsword said:
Perhaps the 3rd phase is also a place were one comes into union with Jesus?

Union with Christ comes from being crucified in the outer man....to be joined to Christ in the inner man...so only in 4th phase.

David Lamb · Jul 13, 2026

shepherdsword said:
A couple of things were triggered in me when I watched this:

1) I always though the special category of "saint" was a RCC construct. However, we see the distinction so clearly here. Paul makes a distinction between saints and the faithful in Christ Jesus here:

Eph 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, (1)to the saints which are at Ephesus, (2)and to the faithful in Christ Jesus:

I don't see Ephesians 1:1 as distinguishing between two groups ("saints" and "faithful in Christ Jesus." I agree with what Jamieson, Fausset and Brown wrote in their commentary: "to the saints ... and to the faithful — The same persons are referred to by both designations, as the Greek proves: “to those who are saints, and faithful in Christ Jesus.” The sanctification by God is here put before man’s faith. The twofold aspect of salvation is thus presented, God’s grace in the first instance sanctifying us, (that is, setting us apart in His eternal purposes as holy unto Himself); and our faith, by God’s gift, laying hold of salvation (2Th_2:13; 1Pe_1:2)."

We certainly don't see "saint" in the Bible used as a title before somebody's name. "Saints" refers to Christians in the New Testament.

shepherdsword · Jul 13, 2026

David Lamb said:
I don't see Ephesians 1:1 as distinguishing between two groups ("saints" and "faithful in Christ Jesus." I agree with what Jamieson, Fausset and Brown wrote in their commentary: "to the saints ... and to the faithful — The same persons are referred to by both designations, as the Greek proves: “to those who are saints, and faithful in Christ Jesus.” The sanctification by God is here put before man’s faith. The twofold aspect of salvation is thus presented, God’s grace in the first instance sanctifying us, (that is, setting us apart in His eternal purposes as holy unto Himself); and our faith, by God’s gift, laying hold of salvation (2Th_2:13; 1Pe_1:2)."

Wuest says that a "saint" is one who has experienced the reality of his position and the faithful is a believer who has been granted life positionally. However, I did look at AT Robertson as well, he says that "saints" and the "faithful" are the same and belong under one article. So you could be correct.

David Lamb said:
We certainly don't see "saint" in the Bible used as a title before somebody's name. "Saints" refers to Christians in the New Testament.

Job 32:21-22 Let me not, I pray you, accept any man's person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man. For I know not to give flattering titles; in so doing my maker would soon take me away.

MostlyConfused · Jul 22, 2026

The 4th and 5th episodes became more difficult for me to follow. I became slightly agitated, thinking I was doing Something wrong since it sounded like I was in the 4th gear of nothingness and content to be there when it also sounded like it was a useless place to be. But I think it’s just a misunderstanding on my part of what you were saying and meaning combined with the way I have looked at where God has brought me as a place where I have become nothing to myself and only His will and what He brings to me in the moment exists as my desire. I think I do better to not try to figure out where I am or what He is doing or where He is taking me and just trust that He knows exactly what He is doing and be content to stay in this peace as long as He is pleased for me to remain in it. I have seen that when I become agitated over myself, even for a small amount of time, I am beginning to go the wrong direction, away from Him and toward the desire of my flesh.
Ive begun to talk about myself too much so I’m going to stop that now.

Episkopos · Jul 22, 2026

MostlyConfused said:
The 4th and 5th episodes became more difficult for me to follow. I became slightly agitated, thinking I was doing Something wrong since it sounded like I was in the 4th gear of nothingness and content to be there when it also sounded like it was a useless place to be. But I think it’s just a misunderstanding on my part of what you were saying and meaning combined with the way I have looked at where God has brought me as a place where I have become nothing to myself and only His will and what He brings to me in the moment exists as my desire. I think I do better to not try to figure out where I am or what He is doing or where He is taking me and just trust that He knows exactly what He is doing and be content to stay in this peace as long as He is pleased for me to remain in it. I have seen that when I become agitated over myself, even for a small amount of time, I am beginning to go the wrong direction, away from Him and toward the desire of my flesh.
Ive begun to talk about myself too much so I’m going to stop that now.

It's a good thing that you are catching yourself. God's ways are not meant to cater to our needs...beyond what He gives us to sustain our temporal lives. The truth is unyielding to our thoughts. Maintaining a tamim approach puts us in the sphere of God's mercy. His glory is something altogether different and meant to seen as something that is beyond us. He decides whom He elevates. And elevation is not necessarily a good thing...especially if we lose our child-likeness in the process.

Cinderella went to the ball thinking she was just a guest. It was the ugly step-sisters that thought they could become the bride. So it is wise to see ourselves merely as guests so that IF we are meant to be more than that.....the Lord will take us further.

MostlyConfused · 2026-08-11T19:18:08-0500

I watched this again and I note (aside from the mystery area of being translated) you have 7 steps or phases or “gears.” I didn’t take real notice of this on your chart before. Paul also talked about a 7th gear and he called it the 7th heaven.
Teresa of Avila talked about 7 mansions but I have to read her again because she mostly confused me further into her book when I picked it up 15 years or more ago.
I have pictured it as a ladder with rungs. But it was only earlier today that I wondered if there might be 7 rungs on the ladder, which was why I asked if it might be 7 rather than just a generic “many.”
Paul, Teresa, you - 7 gears, heavens, mansions or states of prayer - none of you consulted with each other yet you all came up with 7…

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