Trying to get rid of a spirit spouse, but don't know how I'm supposed to fast.
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It happens, but most likely there has been a place of trauma or some sort of open door. I'd advise anyone who is experiencing this to seek God and ask Him where the cracks are.
Agreed. We have to deal with our past at some point, but it's mostly a process that can sometimes take a lifetime.
I stand corrected, brothers and sisters in Christ. This is indeed a sister in Christ. Sorry again, @Hillsage.
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Hillsage
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I personally do not believe spirits are either male or female, but as I said earlier, they have 'masculine' or 'feminine' natures/attributes. I know that the Pagan origins of Incubus/Incubi say the spirit told them it was the name of a "male spirit", but those pagans worshiped lying spirits who hid the truth from them too. The kingdom of God is not divided against itself....the kingdom of Satan is.
In defense of my opinion, scripture says;
GAL 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Cchrist Jesus.
This verse speaks of the "neither male nor female" anointed/christos spirit which was in Jesus, who had a male body. You girls here all have female bodies but the same "spirit of Christ in you", as we males do.
MAT 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
But the "neither male or female" spirit which was in Jesus, also had feminine 'nature and attributes' side, to it.
Again, according to scripture.
MAT 23:37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would
I /JESUS have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!
REV 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps/mastos with a golden girdle.
3149 mastos: a (prop female) breast (as if kneaded up)
I do have a testimony to share concerning Incubus and Sucubus as a spiritual connection to HOMOSEXUALITY.
But it is teaching I have HEARD from the "anointing which abides within which teaches" us also, and not religious men. (1Joh 2: 27)
When it comes to deliverance, a lot of what is known today has come from post biblical revelation from believers who were truly spirit led. And in my opinion today, that spirit wasn't the triune Holy Spirit of God. It comes from the same holy spirit of christos which was in Jesus, when he dealt with deliverance, which did make it to the bible.
I have the opinion that if feminine SUCUBUS goes after a male his dream would be a heterosexual dream. And if masculine INCUBUS goes after a female, (especially children) her dream would be a heterosexual dream.
But if a feminine SUCUBUS goes after a female in her dream it will be a homosexual dream. And if a masculine INCUBUS goes after a male (especially children) then it will be a homosexual dream.
I have had two experiences concerning this type of encounter. Both testimonies, shared having NON SEXUAL dreams at young ages where they were woke up with a night terror where they felt like an octopus (or something tenacled) was laying on their chests and crushing them. Both ended up shortly after going down the homosexual path.
I'll just stop there.
From the OP:
...when I am weak, then am I strong. (2 Cor. 12:10)
The whole of the spiritual world is fully aware of the status of your physical body and its fleshly desires, its "open doors to the enemy" potential. So whatever you can do to break your flesh, to discipline yourself to willingly put your flesh into a weaker state, can be of benefit in dealing spiritually with the demonic. How you might accomplish that is up to you. Your situation is unique to you; only you know what would best get you to that place of weaker flesh and thus stronger spirituality - always aware that it's the Holy Spirit who does the heavy lifting.
While in bed, I had a devil try to sodomize me, and it physically hurt. After I confessed my past sexual sin(s) (largely fornication and masturbation), turned away from them (i.e. repented) and continued to resist, the attacks stopped. To be sure, I cast it out (always in Jesus' name). BTW, orifices are gateways. Putting anything into an orifice that it is not designed for, can open a gateway to this type of devil (sexually speaking).
The purpose behind fasting is:
...when I am weak, then am I strong. (2 Cor. 12:10)
The whole of the spiritual world is fully aware of the status of your physical body and its fleshly desires, its "open doors to the enemy" potential. So whatever you can do to break your flesh, to discipline yourself to willingly put your flesh into a weaker state, can be of benefit in dealing spiritually with the demonic. How you might accomplish that is up to you. Your situation is unique to you; only you know what would best get you to that place of weaker flesh and thus stronger spirituality - always aware that it's the Holy Spirit who does the heavy lifting.
How did you come to that realization?
The incubus and succubus devils don't necessarily "stay in their respective lanes." They are "switch hitters." Hetero- and homo- dreams are simply labels some apply in their attempts to understand the gender question from the human perspective. Also, knowing a devil's name is of no direct benefit. However, knowing what a devil is (e.g. devil of lust, devil of tarot, devil of pride, etc.) is useful in sorting out the rat's nest of deliverance.
That would be the classic nightmar (formerly without the "e") from antiquity. The origin of the nightmar (today's' watered down "sleep paralysis") was previously posted here. You personally may not have done anything to warrant a visit; it could be a generational spirit let into your family line by someone who was/is in authority over you. Deliverance is still the order of the day.
While in bed, I had a devil try to sodomize me, and it physically hurt. After I confessed my past sexual sin(s) (largely fornication and masturbation), turned away from them (i.e. repented) and continued to resist, the attacks stopped. To be sure, I cast it out (always in Jesus' name). BTW, orifices are gateways. Putting anything into an orifice that it is not designed for, can open a gateway to this type of devil (sexually speaking).
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Hillsage
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I think the best treatise I've read concerning what's a devil or a demon or an unclean spirit, came from Derek Prince's book 'They shall Expel demons'. I do agree that the 'nature' or 'attribute' being seen e.g. lust, pride is a much used method in the deliverance ministry. But I also believe there is a place for knowing the name too. But getting that name from a demon can be tricky, as they all lie. But when you do receive a 'name' by a 'manifested revelation' ("discerning of spirits") I have found that to be a very powerful tool. I've experienced regular long lasting sessions being shortened greatly as 'hearing and obeying' grew with spiritual maturity.
Just as important though, IMO, is "evil spirits" knowing your name. The "sons of Sceva" found that out the hard way. So when you call them by their name, when you never asked for it, they know that you know the 'One' they all have to submit to.
I think lots of deliverance people all have their favorite techniques which were honed from practice. And what one brethren will say to never do, another brethren will say to always do. I've read enough books to just laugh some times. But always glean something new to put in my bag along the way. But being 'truly' spirit led, is at the top of my list for me, as well as for the true body of Christ on this earth.
I think that; "Order of the day" is a good word. ...for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. It appears to be getting quieter for the thread.
David Lamb
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stevesonthebay
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Fundementally I think this is a demonic or what may be called a negative spirit. One that is designed to deminish or replace Christ in the heart. You are right to keep inviting Christ into your heart in these times. Sometimes its the only thing as these are powerful spirits.
I have come to realise that there is always some sort of sacrifice I need to do to overcome the negative spirits. Theres nothing we can do in our own power and no way. So it becomes to handing over of something to move forward. It may not even have anything to do with the thoughts that come into your head. Just something we need to do in letting go of or in doing something that we have put off or have the thought of needing to be done as the next step towards letting go and letting God.
The battle is for the heart and satan uses the flesh to lure us away from Christs spirit in our hearts. Though a spiritual battle it is our carnal flesh nature that is being used to lure us away. I think there is a link between paganism and negative spirits and that this has become more prevelant in recent years. Like they are coming back and being released due to the world rejecting Christ.
I have come to realise that there is always some sort of sacrifice I need to do to overcome the negative spirits. Theres nothing we can do in our own power and no way. So it becomes to handing over of something to move forward. It may not even have anything to do with the thoughts that come into your head. Just something we need to do in letting go of or in doing something that we have put off or have the thought of needing to be done as the next step towards letting go and letting God.
The battle is for the heart and satan uses the flesh to lure us away from Christs spirit in our hearts. Though a spiritual battle it is our carnal flesh nature that is being used to lure us away. I think there is a link between paganism and negative spirits and that this has become more prevelant in recent years. Like they are coming back and being released due to the world rejecting Christ.
The desire to obtain a name is a snare itself.
However, if one receives a word of knowledge from the Holy Spirit, then such is advantageous.
Sceva's bunch failed because they tried to use the flesh in lieu of the Holy Spirit. They tried a once-removed strategy, identifying themselves as having the same Spirit as Paul and Jesus, but the evil spirit knew that they did not ("We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.")
I try to never go to that "favorite techniques" place because it's of the flesh. There is no other way than to be 'truly Holy Spirit led'.
Deliverance is not popular; no one enjoys displaying dirty laundry. The good news is that dirty laundry can get washed clean.
You are describing the process of sanctification. Confession and repentance are ever-unpopular.
The one follows the other.
It is scripture being fulfilled before our eyes.
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stevesonthebay
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That is why it is the only way. If its unpopular then its a sign its the right way as todays idea of Gods kingdom is everything to do with making the here and now the measure of Gods kingdom.
I look at it simply. Though it is not simple to do according to this world. That is the more you have Christ in your life and heart the more you will have to dislike your life in this world. The more you cannot have sin and the flesh thought in your heart.
So its not really what we do but working towards the disposition of selflessness and filling that void with Christ. As Paul said it is no lomger I that lives but Christ that lives in me. It does not happen over night and it takes continual handing over. Chipping away at the flesh and all that it brings and replacing this with Christs spirit. Sometimes that comes down to surrendering even when you don't know what is the right way.
I understand this world views this as weak or unreal because it denies the self and all the feelings and rights and percieved happiness that goes with this. But it is the paradox of the gospel that if we lose ourselves and this world that we find true life and the way.
Yes and I think there has been a resurrurgence of this in a modern form. I see paganism as basically using self as related to the world, to nature and all that goes with it as being the good spirits and gods. At least metaphysically. Or a form of gnosticism where the self is like a spirit that is made into a god. But this is wrapped around the natural human instincts and flesh desires.
No matter what when humans eject God then the void has to be filled with something. The most natural way to fill that void is with the 'self' and nature which is Gods creation as the gods.
Yes and I think we can go back and look at the stories we have told through the bible and other words spoke by enermies of God as an insight into what is to come. Or what keeps repeating itself and is happening again. But in a modern way.
Sassy Brat
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Angelina I left a post on a 2025 post of yours I didn’t have privilege to comment.. but I was curious about deliverance and scriptures that go with it, I keep hearing about deliverance- but I’m not sure exactly where it’s mentioned in scripture.. could you pls expand on this definition of deliverance? Thanks so much! Maybe I should’ve private messaged? Not sure if I should have posted this here pls delete if not!@Destroyevil98, if you want counseling and deliverance, give me a PM, and we will see where the Lord leads...
Deliverance comes with surrendering your life to Christ and walking in relationship with Him ...renewing your mind with the truth of God's Word. (Read it daily. It is your "daily bread.") The old will fall off ...or pass away ...and all things will become new as you walk a life of surrender to Holy Spirit.
2 Corinthians 5:17
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
This is the walk of sanctification. There will be times when God puts His finger on something in your life (present, or often past) and invite you to address that thing with Him. Don't run or shy away from walking forward into those areas with Him. He may call your attention to areas of wounding or areas where you came into agreement with something that isn't of Him. He may require you to work through that and repentance (and/or forgiveness of someone who hurt you, etc) may be a part of that process. These will be your times of growth and more freedom ......deliverance.
Am I making sense?
Sassy Brat
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Oh yes totally making sense!! Thank you!! That answers my question fully! Thank you! Totally truth!
Excellent!
Also, oftentimes where there are areas where we stumble over and over with negative thoughts and emotional pain, or falling into unhealthy behavior patterns... they are rooted in a past painful experience and wounding. These are also areas where it's vital to ask the LORD to shine His light and speak His healing truth into those places of wounding. This brings freedom from the negative thoughts and pain. If that wounding is very deep and severe, it is often multifaceted and God will walk you through it bit by bit, piece by piece, layer by layer ...and levels of freedom will come.
John 8:32
“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
Sassy Brat
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I do believe He & I are doing this a lot lately!! Really healing and dealing with me on my struggles and things I’ve struggled to overcome or move forward away from the bad behaviors or actions that we call sin! Or even in dealing with painful situations that you didn’t cause but you get sin inside you like unforgiveness anger etc… feel more then ever I’m hearing Him as He shows me in His word it’s just so much deeper in my spirit heart then it’s ever been! I’ve had to really fight condemnation as He shows me and instead receive and lean into Him in my weaknesses!
