Eight objections to evolution

Taken said:

Evolution is a Philosophical Theory

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That's exactly what it's is.
It's not science.
It's philosophy.

Armour of God said:

I read every post.

First your trying to say that intelligent design theory supports theory of evolution.
That's incorrect.
How would you even know when you refuse
to listen to intelligent design scientists.
Fact is that your wrong about that and Google confirms it

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Then I gave you advise to be objective and listen to the opposing arguments of the intelligent design scientists.
Just as I have listened to the arguments of evolutionary theory and watched your videos.
But you refuse to do that. Instead you just believe the athiest lies that pull people away from God.

We have different beliefs on this matter. The big difference is that I have listened to both sides of the debate, TOE and ID.
You've only listened to one side.

Look at both sides of the debate, just as I have. Then you will be better informed my brother

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Again it is like talking to bowling ball.
You don't think that evolution is part of intelligent design beliefs? God is part of everything.
What is funny is you absolutely cannot prove the creations story in Genessis. No physical proof.
Evolution has tens of thousands of examples of the progression of animals and humans.
You do not have a leg to stand on....You have a belief and that fine....put not proof.
If someone does not believe like you do you call them atheists. I deserve a medal for being so patient with you. I do not want to stupp to your level.

Grailhunter said:

Again it is like talking to bowling ball.
You don't think that evolution is part of intelligent design beliefs? God is part of everything.
What is funny is you absolutely cannot prove the creations story in Genessis. No physical proof.
Evolution has tens of thousands of examples of the progression of animals and humans.
You do not have a leg to stand on....You have a belief and that fine....put not proof.
If someone does not believe like you do you call them atheists. I deserve a medal for being so patient with you. I do not want to stupp to your level.

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My friend, at least I look at both sides of the argument unlike youself

Fact - Intelligent design theory rejects the theory of evolution. The least you could do is admit you were wrong about that


Do yourself a favour and listen to both sides of the argument as I have.
Educate yourself so you at least stop getting the fundamentals wrong with TOE and ID

Armour of God said:

My friend, at least I look at both sides of the argument unlike youself

Fact - Intelligent design theory rejects the theory of evolution. The least you could do is admit you were wrong about that

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Do yourself a favour and listen to both sides of the argument as I have.
Educate yourself so you at least stop getting the fundamentals wrong with TOE and ID

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Not true.
I take all three sides. I believe in intelligent design and intelligent creation and that intelligence is God and he guided evolution for millions of years. From the Big Bang to your tax man.
You were trying to say I could not do that....LOL
Most of your effort was criticizing what I believe.
What exactly do you believe?

Grailhunter said:

Not true.
I take all three sides. I believe in intelligent design and intelligent creation and that intelligence is God and he guided evolution for millions of years. From the Big Bang to your tax man.

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You haven't listen to all the sides. You admitted you didn't watch any of the videos we posted for you to watch.

And i can tell you havent listen to both sides because you were saying that ID actually supports TOE.
That's what I was objecting to because
That's incorrect.

Grailhunter said:

Most of your effort was criticizing what I believe.

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I'm criticising your belief, yes, just as your criticising my belief. It's called a debate. Nothing wrong with that, we've both been respectful to each other.

Grailhunter said:

You were trying to say I could not do that....LOL

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I never said you can't have your own belief.
I was saying your belief is a mix of TOE and ID and that's fine.

But you were saying ID supports TOE. That's what I was saying you can't do, because it's false.

ID certainly does reject TOE. That's an undeniable fact. If you understood ID you would know this.
That's how I know you haven't listed to ID scientists at all. You've badly misrepresented the ID theory.

Grailhunter said:

What exactly do you believe?

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I believe in the intelligent design theory which rejects the theory of evolution.
You should learn about it instead of misrepresenting it

Armour of God said:

You haven't listen to all the sides. You admitted you didn't watch any of the videos we posted for you to watch.

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I am 69 years old and I have been following this for a long time. I do not need any schooling on it.
You still have not said what you believe. Don't worry, I am not like you. I will not criticize what you believe.

And to make myself clear what I believe about this. And do not bother to try to change my mind.
I believe it is possible that all life evolved from a single cell.
I believe God was involved with this single cell.
I believe that God guided evolution and caused these animals and humans to mutate to the next species.
I believe that God created Adam and Eve.
I believe that God had them put clothes on because when they walked out of Paradise it was to a world full of these evolutionary humans.
I think it is possible that these evolutionary humans did not have souls.
I think they gained souls when they mated with the offspring of Adam and Eve.
If you read the narrative the Hebrews/Israelites were attracted to these evolutionary females.

Armour of God said:

I believe in the intelligent design theory which rejects the theory of evolution.

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I am thinking there is more to it.

Armour of God said:

But you were saying ID supports TOE. That's what I was saying you can't do, because it's false.

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I don't think I said intelligent design support TOE, because I do not know what TOE is. So I could not say it.
Intelligent design explains the logical progression of the universe and evolution.
Somewhere a long the line you thought I was agreeing with a specific group. I am not.

Armour of God said:

You haven't listen to all the sides. You admitted you didn't watch any of the videos we posted for you to watch.

And i can tell you havent listen to both sides because you were saying that ID actually supports TOE.
That's what I was objecting to because
That's incorrect.

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I'm criticising your belief, yes, just as your criticising my belief. It's called a debate. Nothing wrong with that, we've both been respectful to each other.



I never said you can't have your own belief.
I was saying your belief is a mix of TOE and ID and that's fine.

But you were saying ID supports TOE. That's what I was saying you can't do, because it's false.

ID certainly does reject TOE. That's an undeniable fact. If you understood ID you would know this.
That's how I know you haven't listed to ID scientists at all. You've badly misrepresented the ID theory.



I believe in the intelligent design theory which rejects the theory of evolution.
You should learn about it instead of misrepresenting it

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evolution is only EVIL lotion being massaged into the brains of the carnally led mind .
Evolution is SCIENCE FALSELY SO CALLED and was only ever the working of the dark one
to create doubt about the bible and the GOD of said bible .
It is a god of forces . As if forces created this world and this universe . AS IF
life came from nothing . LIFE can only come FROM LIFE . not from imaginary big bangs
and gorilla evolving into man NONSENSE . I dont heed a word one of it . Neither should anyone else .

Grailhunter said:

You still have not said what you believe

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You must not read my posts either.
At the end of my last post clearly said that I believe in the theory of intelligent design.

Grailhunter said:

I don't think I said intelligent design support TOE, because I do not know what TOE is. So I could not say it.

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TOE is short for theory of evolution.
ID is short for intelligent design.

This is what you said.



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You repeatedly said that intelligent design supports the theory of evolution.

That's is incorrect my brother.

You obviously don't know the theory of intelligent design.

Google confirms the fact


Now if you were an honest person you would at least admit you were wrong about that and confirm the fact that intelligent design rejects the theory of evolution

amigo de christo said:

evolution is only EVIL lotion being massaged into the brains of the carnally led mind .
Evolution is SCIENCE FALSELY SO CALLED and was only ever the working of the dark one
to create doubt about the bible and the GOD of said bible .
It is a god of forces . As if forces created this world and this universe . AS IF
life came from nothing . LIFE can only come FROM LIFE . not from imaginary big bangs
and gorilla evolving into man NONSENSE . I dont heed a word one of it . Neither should anyone else .

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All true. It's a big fat lie propagated by atheists who are eager to turn people away from God.
Unfortunately it is being very successful as it is being taught in schools as if it was a fact under the guise of "science". Pulling children away from God.
But in reality it's not science, it's all based upon wishful thinking and assumptions.
It's sad that some Christians are being deceived by this God hating lie of a theory, a theory that rejects God. And they even fight for it

Armour of God said:

At the end of my last post clearly said that I believe in the theory of intelligent design.

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And I said there has to be more/

Debp said:

It sounds like you are making up your own hodge podge of what you believe. Sort of like that primordial soup that evolutionists claim brought forth life.

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Right. When you get back millions of years it is all theory anyway.

Grailhunter said:

And I said there has to be more/

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ID explains everything.
You clearly don't know the ID.
You should look into it.

You've repeatedly misrepresented ID.

ID rejects common descent and macroevolution.
Yet you believe those things.
TOE rejects God.
Yet you believe in God.

Your belief is clearly a mix of ID and TOE.

Debp said:

It sounds like you are making up your own hodge podge of what you believe. Sort of like that primordial soup that evolutionists claim brought forth life.

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He basically believes some parts of theory of evolution and some parts of intelligent design. And that's fine by me. I just wish he would admit that instead of misrepresenting intelligent design when he repeatedly said it supports the theory of evolution which it doesn't at all.