God's will concerning the Palestinians

amigo de christo · Thursday at 11:53 AM

lforrest said:
Hamas, the Palestinians, their sympathizers on the left, the unbelieving Jews as well. Everyone who rejects Jesus is playing along with the devil. And they hate one-another because they are blind to the true enemy.

only one thing left to add to this .
And they , as in both sides are all more and more running to a solution for peace
THAT IS OF ANTI CHRIST . we must abandon all h opes in men , in politics
And return to a rock solid trust and hope ONLY IN GOD and IN HIS CHRIST and thus IN HIS GOSPEL and in his words .

amigo de christo · Thursday at 11:57 AM

lforrest said:
Hamas, the Palestinians, their sympathizers on the left, the unbelieving Jews as well. Everyone who rejects Jesus is playing along with the devil. And they hate one-another because they are blind to the true enemy.

Friend if it were up to me , i would put a bible into the hand of every man and woman
in christendom and tell them all
FROM HERE ON OUT this will be the only BOOK we read .
But i have not that power . i can only warn us all to get back into the scriptures
and to learn of that GOD and of HIS CHRIST for our selves .
Peter was right
paul was right
And we all know JESUS was right .
AND what they all warned was coming upon the churches in the latters days
IS HERE . ITS HERE . we must return to only childlike faith
IN GOD and IN HiS Christ .
and many have long preached another god and another jesus unto this lovesick generation .
And by love sick i mean they are madly in love with the love of a harlot
ONLY THEY THINKS its of GOD . get them out . warn e very one you can .
warn them all . GET OUT of anything ecumeincal inclusive interfaith NOW . and let none look back
lest they be tempted to return .

amigo de christo · Thursday at 12:05 PM

lforrest said:
Hamas, the Palestinians, their sympathizers on the left, the unbelieving Jews as well. Everyone who rejects Jesus is playing along with the devil. And they hate one-another because they are blind to the true enemy.

one more thing . you were very honest but your list was not long enough .
its not just hamas , the palistines , their sympathizers on the left , the unbelieving jews as well .
FRIEND ITS ALL OVER THE NAR REALM and their so called pro israel .
ITS all over the realms of man but just sung to each side in a way that leaned to that side .
to the blue it came in as though it was b lue
and to the red it came in as though it was red
to the baptist it came in as though it was a baptist
and the same with all denominations . the same with even the false religions
It was exactly like a chameleon . this entity knew exactly what it was doing .
And it knew exactly how to win them all to one common purpose and one we are one common mindset
to convince them all , this is the only way to attain peace in the world .
but it was a liar all along . and in both sides peace plan , IS THE SAME LIE .
whether it is the two state solution , same lie
or whether it be the nar conseravite one , sAME LIE .
Soon ifforest the law of the inclusive god will no l onger be offered by ecuemincalsim
but enforced by CRUSADES under a POWERFUL AI LED DIGITAL SYSTEM .
Tribulation is com ing for the sheep . the hour of our betrayal is at hand .
AND ALL who see us being rounded up , WILL ONLY SEE us as RELIGOUS extremists , a danger and a threat ,
a potential terroist , no less dangerous than isis . ITS COMING and it is at the door .

Jericho · Thursday at 1:11 PM

Luther7 said:
Search October 7th red flag event and see what happens. Unless of course you are locked into a zionist algorithm. Substack is doing an excellent job of allowing freedom of speech.

How about you tell me in your own words. My time is limited at the moment.

Luther7 · Thursday at 1:49 PM

Jericho said:
How about you tell me in your own words. My time is limited at the moment.

Satanyahu has been financing hamas for many years in order to create division amongst their government and people. HE SAID IT HIMSELF. He's been caught off camera quite a few times, actually. Guess he can't help himself.

Just like 9/11, October 7th was a green light to go into hyper mode in fulfillment of their teaching of a "greater Israel" and world domination. Soon they will have Ukraine ( New Khazaria) to flee to. They are 20 steps ahead of us and 100 steps ahead of the gullible Christian zionist goy. Just reporting facts. And we haven't even touched on the noahide laws.

Jericho · Thursday at 4:24 PM

Luther7 said:
Satanyahu has been financing hamas for many years in order to create division amongst their government and people. HE SAID IT HIMSELF. He's been caught off camera quite a few times, actually. Guess he can't help himself.

Just like 9/11, October 7th was a green light to go into hyper mode in fulfillment of their teaching of a "greater Israel" and world domination. Soon they will have Ukraine ( New Khazaria) to flee to. They are 20 steps ahead of us and 100 steps ahead of the gullible Christian zionist goy. Just reporting facts. And we haven't even touched on the noahide laws.

I've addressed most of this before. Israel (or Netanyahu) has never directly funded Hamas, unlike Iran. Israel allowed some Qatari money to go into Gaza for humanitarian aid. If Hamas took that money and misappropriated it, that's on them. I've heard these false flags conspiracy theories before, and they're based on nothing but pure speculation and conjecture. There's zero evidence to prove it. One of the defining features of Israel/Jewish hate is the countless, incessant conspiracy theories that have been around for hundreds of years. That should tell you something. In the words of George Orwell, "One of the marks of antisemitism is an ability to believe stories that could not possibly be true." That applies to Israel too.

As far as "greater Israel," has Israel expanded its borders? No. They've actually given away land for peace. They returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in 1979. They withdrew from Southern Lebanon in 2000 and from Gaza in 2005. The only reason why they went back into Gaza is because of the constant attacks. Whether you want to admit it or not, Gaza is a de facto terror state. But somehow, Israel is always vilified for defending themselves. By the way, I'd really like to know how one tiny country is going to dominate the whole world. That doesn't seem very practical or feasible.

Why is it that the blame never falls on Hamas or the Palestinian people? I'll start with the Palestinian people. The celebrated the attacks on 9/11 and 10/7. They kept the Israeli civilian captives in their homes. They teach their children to hate Israel and the Jews. They voted Hamas into power. They have been given multiple opportunities to have their own state and rejected it every time. Even Bill Clinton said, "They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." They've been given billions in dollars and aides over the decades, and what have they done with it? All that money has gone into fighting Israel. Palestinians are in the state that they are in for one simple reason, their absolute refusal to coexist with Israel. Their chant "from the river to the sea" is a genocidal statement. They cursed Israel, and are cursed because of it. Genesis 12:3 is proven correct every day.

As for Hamas, they fight in and around civilian buildings. They use their own people as shields. They fight in civilian clothing (which also makes it impossible to distinguish between civilian and combatant casualties). You can find Israeli bases online, but you can't do the same with Hamas. Why? Because Hamas uses civilian buildings as their bases. They hope it will dissuade attacks, but if not, they can use it in their propaganda war against Israel. This has always primarily been a propaganda war. Hamas knows they can never beat Israel militarily, but they can beat them with propaganda. Ask yourself this: why would Hamas launch an attack on 10/7 knowing what Israel's response would be? For most people, it would have been suicidal to launch such an attack. But for them, they don't mind if civilians die because it helps their cause. They know Westerners are sensitive to civilian casualties. You're a victim of sophisticated Palestinian propaganda, and you don't even know it.

Luther7 · Thursday at 5:33 PM

Jericho said:
I've addressed most of this before. Israel (or Netanyahu) has never directly funded Hamas, unlike Iran. Israel allowed some Qatari money to go into Gaza for humanitarian aid. If Hamas took that money and misappropriated it, that's on them. I've heard these false flags conspiracy theories before, and they're based on nothing but pure speculation and conjecture. There's zero evidence to prove it. One of the defining features of Israel/Jewish hate is the countless, incessant conspiracy theories that have been around for hundreds of years. That should tell you something. In the words of George Orwell, "One of the marks of antisemitism is an ability to believe stories that could not possibly be true." That applies to Israel too.

As far as "greater Israel," has Israel expanded its borders? No. They've actually given away land for peace. They returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in 1979. They withdrew from Southern Lebanon in 2000 and from Gaza in 2005. The only reason why they went back into Gaza is because of the constant attacks. Whether you want to admit it or not, Gaza is a de facto terror state. But somehow, Israel is always vilified for defending themselves. By the way, I'd really like to know how one tiny country is going to dominate the whole world. That doesn't seem very practical or feasible.

Why is it that the blame never falls on Hamas or the Palestinian people? I'll start with the Palestinian people. The celebrated the attacks on 9/11 and 10/7. They kept the Israeli civilian captives in their homes. They teach their children to hate Israel and the Jews. They voted Hamas into power. They have been given multiple opportunities to have their own state and rejected it every time. Even Bill Clinton said, "They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." They've been given billions in dollars and aides over the decades, and what have they done with it? All that money has gone into fighting Israel. Palestinians are in the state that they are in for one simple reason, their absolute refusal to coexist with Israel. Their chant "from the river to the sea" is a genocidal statement. They cursed Israel, and are cursed because of it. Genesis 12:3 is proven correct every day.

As for Hamas, they fight in and around civilian buildings. They use their own people as shields. They fight in civilian clothing (which also makes it impossible to distinguish between civilian and combatant casualties). You can find Israeli bases online, but you can't do the same with Hamas. Why? Because Hamas uses civilian buildings as their bases. They hope it will dissuade attacks, but if not, they can use it in their propaganda war against Israel. This has always primarily been a propaganda war. Hamas knows they can never beat Israel militarily, but they can beat them with propaganda. Ask yourself this: why would Hamas launch an attack on 10/7 knowing what Israel's response would be? For most people, it would have been suicidal to launch such an attack. But for them, they don't mind if civilians die because it helps their cause. They know Westerners are sensitive to civilian casualties. You're a victim of sophisticated Palestinian propaganda, and you don't even know it.

You support Israel because you think that God wants you to do so. No matter what they do, you're going to support them because you think that the only way Jesus is going to come is through them. You make the blood of Jesus Christ of no effect. You make the New Covenant unheard of. And if you claim to be a Christian, you are one of God's chosen people, And they are not. God rejected them. You are not a second-class citizen to them. But unfortunately many of you fell for this through the indoctrination process of dispensationalism.

My only hope is that your eyes will be opened and see them for what they are. They are actually the best con artists ever.

markalan · Thursday at 9:31 PM

Luther7 said:
You support Israel because you think that God wants you to do so. No matter what they do, you're going to support them because you think that the only way Jesus is going to come is through them. You make the blood of Jesus Christ of no effect. You make the New Covenant unheard of. And if you claim to be a Christian, you are one of God's chosen people, And they are not. God rejected them. You are not a second-class citizen to them. But unfortunately many of you fell for this through the indoctrination process of dispensationalism.

My only hope is that your eyes will be opened and see them for what they are. They are actually the best con artists ever.

Replacement Theology always leads to antisemitism ... a tree is known by its fruit

Luther7 · Friday at 11:30 AM

markalan said:
Replacement Theology always leads to antisemitism ... a tree is known by its fruit

THEY AREN'T SEMITES. The ancestors of today's Israelites came from Eastern Europe from the Khazarian empire. They were sick ruthless people that converted to Judaism in the 8th century. They must have felt really comfortable with what the talmud teaches. PALESTINIANS are actually a semitic people. Their ancestors go back to the time of Christ and beyond.

Please remember that converting to judaism doesn't make you an ancestor of Abraham. And God doesn't care anyway. That's what zionist "christians" don't seem to understand. You're so concerned with licking the feet of " those who say they are Jews and are not " ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9) and God is preparing judgment for these people ( unless of course they are part of the remnant). His word clearly teaches that we must repent and believe on Jesus Christ before he comes, otherwise there is no salvation.

" ISRAEL" in its truest Biblical/spiritual sense is Jesus Christ and His people. jews and non- jews must repent now while there is time.

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Luther7 · Friday at 7:19 PM

TLHKAJ said:

Thank you, thank you. I was wondering how you were able to send videos on this forum

Luther7 · Friday at 7:23 PM

TLHKAJ said:

Jericho, Debp please take notice!

Jericho · 2026-10-18T11:49:21-0500

Luther7 said:
You support Israel because you think that God wants you to do so. No matter what they do, you're going to support them because you think that the only way Jesus is going to come is through them. You make the blood of Jesus Christ of no effect. You make the New Covenant unheard of. And if you claim to be a Christian, you are one of God's chosen people, And they are not. God rejected them. You are not a second-class citizen to them. But unfortunately many of you fell for this through the indoctrination process of dispensationalism.

My only hope is that your eyes will be opened and see them for what they are. They are actually the best con artists ever.

I believe Israel is prophetically important, and God still has a plan for the Jews. That doesn’t mean they are perfect, beyond reproach, or more deserving than anyone else. It only means that God made an everlasting covenant with them, and in His great mercy and namesake, He will keep those promises. I believe Scriptures and fulfilled prophecy have proven that to be true. The fact that Israel exists at all despite the diaspora, all the wars, terrorist attacks, boycotts, and international pressure is a miracle in itself. You obviously believe God has replaced the church with Israel. Okay. But if I’m right and you’re wrong, then you’re the one who’s in opposition to God’s will, and that is a precarious place to be.

You have allied yourself with Israel’s enemies, the chief among them being Islam. I find it ironic that in all your rhetoric against Israel, you are oblivious when it comes to the threat of Islam. Who is the greater threat here? Islam is the one actually Islamizing and overtaking the West. All the riots and rape gangs you see happening in Europe are coming from migrant Muslims. You talk about Noahide laws; well, Muslims want Sharia law to be the law of the land. You talk about being second-class citizens. Well, under Islam, non-Muslims are treated as second-class citizens (dhimmis). You talk about “greater Israel” and world domination when the nature of Islam is to dominate. Everything you project onto Israel, Islam is actually doing. I hope that your eyes will be opened to the true threat of Islam before you wake up one day and find yourself a dhimmi.

Luther7 · 2026-10-18T13:12:07-0500

Jericho said:
I believe Israel is prophetically important, and God still has a plan for the Jews. That doesn’t mean they are perfect, beyond reproach, or more deserving than anyone else. It only means that God made an everlasting covenant with them, and in His great mercy and namesake, He will keep those promises. I believe Scriptures and fulfilled prophecy have proven that to be true. The fact that Israel exists at all despite the diaspora, all the wars, terrorist attacks, boycotts, and international pressure is a miracle in itself. You obviously believe God has replaced the church with Israel. Okay. But if I’m right and you’re wrong, then you’re the one who’s in opposition to God’s will, and that is a precarious place to be.

You have allied yourself with Israel’s enemies, the chief among them being Islam. I find it ironic that in all your rhetoric against Israel, you are oblivious when it comes to the threat of Islam. Who is the greater threat here? Islam is the one actually Islamizing and overtaking the West. All the riots and rape gangs you see happening in Europe are coming from migrant Muslims. You talk about Noahide laws; well, Muslims want Sharia law to be the law of the land. You talk about being second-class citizens. Well, under Islam, non-Muslims are treated as second-class citizens (dhimmis). You talk about “greater Israel” and world domination when the nature of Islam is to dominate. Everything you project onto Israel, Islam is actually doing. I hope that your eyes will be opened to the true threat of Islam before you wake up one day and find yourself a dhimmi.

And seriously this is exactly how I felt about 25 years ago. Since then approximately 3 years ago I was encountered with what is widely known as "the Jewish question". I don't expect anyone here to just immediately change their thought process concerning what they've been taught in church about Israel.

If I could just make three serious points and perhaps we can hash them out later in scripture:

1): God no longer makes plans with anyone based upon their ethnicity since the New Covenant began. This would include " jews" as well because we are all made in the image of God and they fall into that category. You've heard it many times before in scripture. There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek.

2): Any promises of a literal land inheritance were fulfilled. In several places, especially in
Joshua 21:45:
There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.
2a): Throughout the OT, the future promise of an eternal land inheritance (which is worded in many cases in allegorical form ) is for all who partake in the body of Christ. Not in a future unbiblical "literal millennial reign", but at the end of this current earth age.

3): There is only one everlasting Covenant, and that would be through Christ's blood. In the Old testament we read of the heart being circumcised instead of the foreskin. This is New Covenant language.

4): as a born-again Christian, I don't bow down or put myself in second place to unrepentant jews, as is the indoctrination of our day through the misinterpretation of scripture. In other words, when you do a deep dive, when you really want to know the truth about what Israel really means in God's sight, you will find out that it is Christ and His people. There never was a replacement, just a fulfillment that you have to follow out by studying scripture. And yes, this would include some Jews as well, who forsake their demonic religion (I say it like it is).

5): I never said that Islam was not a threat to this world. Governments can easily stop this Islamic infiltration. The problem is our governments are infiltrated by "God's chosen people" who have the influence in policies that allow mass migration to begin with. In other words, they are using the Islamic world as a tool for our destruction. I know you're going to freak when you see that, but keep doing your research is what I say respectfully.

6): May I ask what you actually know about the noahide laws (which are found in the talmud not the Bible)? In many ways, Sharia law shares certain views with Judaism. I have a real hunch that Judaism created Islam but that's another subject for another day. The point is the people with the power are pushing their laws and they're not Sharia laws are they? The first noahide law is
" Do not worship idols". Sounds good, right? Until you dig deeper into their book and find out that if you worship Jesus Christ, you are an idolater. And the penalty for that is decapitation.

7): My real concern is that one day it will be too late ( If it is already) and we all wake up finding ourselves in a jewish world order. Oh, actually we already are, it just hasn't been finalized yet. Their moshiach isn't here.....yet.

8): Our only hope is in Jesus Christ. He will save his people, He will gather His sheep in the last day.

brightmorningstar · 2026-10-19T05:21:11-0500

Luther7 said:
THEY AREN'T SEMITES. The ancestors of today's Israelites came from Eastern Europe from the Khazarian empire. They were sick ruthless people that converted to Judaism in the 8th century. They must have felt really comfortable with what the talmud teaches. PALESTINIANS are actually a semitic people. Their ancestors go back to the time of Christ and beyond.

Please remember that converting to judaism doesn't make you an ancestor of Abraham. And God doesn't care anyway. That's what zionist "christians" don't seem to understand. You're so concerned with licking the feet of " those who say they are Jews and are not " ( Revelation 2:9, 3:9) and God is preparing judgment for these people ( unless of course they are part of the remnant). His word clearly teaches that we must repent and believe on Jesus Christ before he comes, otherwise there is no salvation.

" ISRAEL" in its truest Biblical/spiritual sense is Jesus Christ and His people. jews and non- jews must repent now while there is time.

Not really. Palestine hasn't really existed except for 25 years as British Mandate and subsequently as Gaza and the West Bank. The people that are called Palestinians are indeed semitic in origin but so are the Jews whose states of Israel and Judah existed long before Palestina was even thought of by the Romans. The people of Gaza never were, whilst Gaza was never Israel or Judah DNA indicates the Philistines were European rather than Semitic.

I agree Israel in its spiritual sense is Jesus Christ and His people, but Gentiles are 'grafted on' because Jesus IS the Jew's Messiah

brightmorningstar · 2026-10-19T05:26:13-0500

Jericho said:
I believe Israel is prophetically important, and God still has a plan for the Jews. That doesn’t mean they are perfect, beyond reproach, or more deserving than anyone else. It only means that God made an everlasting covenant with them, and in His great mercy and namesake, He will keep those promises. I believe Scriptures and fulfilled prophecy have proven that to be true. The fact that Israel exists at all despite the diaspora, all the wars, terrorist attacks, boycotts, and international pressure is a miracle in itself. You obviously believe God has replaced the church with Israel. Okay. But if I’m right and you’re wrong, then you’re the one who’s in opposition to God’s will, and that is a precarious place to be.

You have allied yourself with Israel’s enemies, the chief among them being Islam. I find it ironic that in all your rhetoric against Israel, you are oblivious when it comes to the threat of Islam. Who is the greater threat here? Islam is the one actually Islamizing and overtaking the West. All the riots and rape gangs you see happening in Europe are coming from migrant Muslims. You talk about Noahide laws; well, Muslims want Sharia law to be the law of the land. You talk about being second-class citizens. Well, under Islam, non-Muslims are treated as second-class citizens (dhimmis). You talk about “greater Israel” and world domination when the nature of Islam is to dominate. Everything you project onto Israel, Islam is actually doing. I hope that your eyes will be opened to the true threat of Islam before you wake up one day and find yourself a dhimmi.

Well said.

and. .... of all the religions only one has the denial of Jesus Christ as part of its faith and belief, Islam. (consider 1 John 2 about the spirit of anti-Christ)

I would say the biggest part of the trouble in the lands is Islam's claim to it.

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