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You said " Israel has every right to protect themselves"
Israel has been unjustly attacked since their modern reconstruction.
2) Defending yourself is one thing, but wiping out an entire civilization is another.
What "civilization" would that be? Are you talking about the one that chants "from the river to the sea"? The one that wants the annihilation of Israel? That one?
 
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Israel has been unjustly attacked since their modern reconstruction.

What "civilization" would that be? Are you talking about the one that chants "from the river to the sea"? The one that wants the annihilation of Israel? That one?
They are innocent human beings created in God's image and by saying that you are revealing your lack of compassion which is a critical characteristic of being a Christian. However, you would fit more in with Judaism. You're already doing their bidding anyway.
 
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In the Hamas charter it says to kill every Jew, even worldwide.
And guess what? I don't agree with that. Believe it or not, I'm not a Hamas sympathizer. HOWEVER, It's pure idiocy or lunacy with a touch of demonic spirit to think that you have to wipe out a whole countryside, a whole city to root out terrorists. Do you not think that we have the technology ( since we obviously give it to Israel) to find these people without murdering children tens of thousands? And please keep in mind that the prime Minister of Israel funds Hamas millions and millions of dollars to keep them active to keep the division going.

It's just a smoke screen for killing every non-jew around them and that's the absolute truth. You can't see it because you think we have to bow down to these people because they hold the keys to heaven or something absurd like that. Judaism teaches an absolute, absolute hatred for every non-jew and especially Christians. They teach that Christ is boiling an excrement in hell at this moment. And you want to be kumbaya with these demons.
 
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They are innocent human beings created in God's image and by saying that you are revealing your lack of compassion which is a critical characteristic of being a Christian. However, you would fit more in with Judaism. You're already doing their bidding anyway.
The Hamas propaganda is strong with this one, Obi Wan.
Making excuses so you can justify "From the River to the Sea" ?
Those Mohammedans are not "innocent human beings". They shelter Hamas IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
This is not about "compassion".
'I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you'.
Hamas (Palestinians) curse Israel.
This is as simple as that.
Clearly you have chosen your side. And so have I.
 
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They are innocent human beings created in God's image and by saying that you are revealing your lack of compassion which is a critical characteristic of being a Christian. However, you would fit more in with Judaism. You're already doing their bidding anyway.

So you have compassion towards the Palestinians and Hamas...but not towards the Jews. Sounds like antisemitism to me.
 
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So you have compassion towards the Palestinians and Hamas...but not towards the Jews. Sounds like antisemitism to me.
I never said I had compassion towards Hamas. I certainly have compassion towards the innocent Palestinians or anyone who's being genocided. You have to realize that most of those Israelis on October 7th were killed by their own people and that is the absolute truth and you will eventually see that.
 
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I never said I had compassion towards Hamas. I certainly have compassion towards the innocent Palestinians or anyone who's being genocided. You have to realize that most of those Israelis on October 7th were killed by their own people and that is the absolute truth and you will eventually see that.
Do you have compassion towards the Israelis and Jews who have been targeted for decades by Palestinian suicide bombers and other Palestinian terrorists?
 

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The Hamas propaganda is strong with this one, Obi Wan.
Making excuses so you can justify "From the River to the Sea" ?
Those Mohammedans are not "innocent human beings". They shelter Hamas IN THEIR OWN HOMES.
This is not about "compassion".
'I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you'.
Hamas (Palestinians) curse Israel.
This is as simple as that.
Clearly you have chosen your side. And so have I.
The Nakba (often misspelled as knockba, meaning "the catastrophe" in Arabic) refers to the mass displacement and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians surrounding the creation of the State of Israel.
The foundational events of the Nakba primarily occurred between November 1947 and July 1949, with the most intense period of expulsion happening in 1948. During this time, Zionist paramilitaries and later the Israeli military expelled or forced around 750,000 Palestinians to flee their homes and destroyed over 500 villages.

So picture living in a city in Illinois or somewhere in this country and all the sudden settlers come in from Canada and take over your city and force everyone out of their homes . Many people I'm sure would take up arms to try to defend their home. Why would it be any different in Palestine? The state of Israel was literally formed by terrorists and much political manipulation.

They don't like Israel because Israel not only forced them out of their homes, but from that time on continuously expanded their borders with military strength far greater than anything they have. If it was anyone else in the world that did this to the Palestinian people, you wouldn't side with them or you wouldn't care.

But like I said many times before our focus should be on the New Covenant for salvation, not the adulation of a people from the past who actually follow the religion of the Pharisees.
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The Nakba (often misspelled as knockba, meaning "the catastrophe" in Arabic) refers to the mass displacement and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians surrounding the creation of the State of Israel.
The foundational events of the Nakba primarily occurred between November 1947 and July 1949, with the most intense period of expulsion happening in 1948. During this time, Zionist paramilitaries and later the Israeli military expelled or forced around 750,000 Palestinians to flee their homes and destroyed over 500 villages.

So picture living in a city in Illinois or somewhere in this country and all the sudden settlers come in from Canada and take over your city and force everyone out of their homes . Many people I'm sure would take up arms to try to defend their home. Why would it be any different in Palestine? The state of Israel was literally formed by terrorists and much political manipulation.

They don't like Israel because Israel not only forced them out of their homes, but from that time on continuously expanded their borders with military strength far greater than anything they have. If it was anyone else in the world that did this to the Palestinian people, you wouldn't side with them or you wouldn't care.

But like I said many times before our focus should be on the New Covenant for salvation, not the adulation of a people from the past who actually follow the religion of the Pharisees.
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You'll never convince them. Dispensational heresy has them by the short hairs. When they are no longer moved to compassion by the death of innocent, if the Spirit of God was ever with them, He has surely left them.
 
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You said " Israel has every right to protect themselves"
1) They New full well it was going to happen they were warned about it and they let it happen because they also funded it and planned it. There is plenty of information out there if you dare to look for it regarding this.

2) Defending yourself is one thing, but wiping out an entire civilization is another.
Israel's war on Gaza is more than just defending itself it would seem, I supect there are attrocities, but seeing as about 15% of Israel's population are arab muslims with full citizen's rights, Israel is hardly wiping out an entire civilisation.
 
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The Nakba (often misspelled as knockba, meaning "the catastrophe" in Arabic) refers to the mass displacement and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians surrounding the creation of the State of Israel.
The foundational events of the Nakba primarily occurred between November 1947 and July 1949, with the most intense period of expulsion happening in 1948. During this time, Zionist paramilitaries and later the Israeli military expelled or forced around 750,000 Palestinians to flee their homes and destroyed over 500 villages.

So picture living in a city in Illinois or somewhere in this country and all the sudden settlers come in from Canada and take over your city and force everyone out of their homes . Many people I'm sure would take up arms to try to defend their home. Why would it be any different in Palestine? The state of Israel was literally formed by terrorists and much political manipulation.

They don't like Israel because Israel not only forced them out of their homes, but from that time on continuously expanded their borders with military strength far greater than anything they have. If it was anyone else in the world that did this to the Palestinian people, you wouldn't side with them or you wouldn't care.

But like I said many times before our focus should be on the New Covenant for salvation, not the adulation of a people from the past who actually follow the religion of the Pharisees.
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not entirely. there have been Israeli 'nakbas' as well. Remember Jews have been in the region even with the diasporas under Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman 'occupation' :D. At the formation of the State of Israel the Palestinians who stayed have received full citizenship.
Have you considered the formation of Pakistan or the Armenian genocide for the formation of Turkey?
 

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You'll never convince them. Dispensational heresy has them by the short hairs. When they are no longer moved to compassion by the death of innocent, if the Spirit of God was ever with them, He has surely left them.
So if you don't mind this conversation, where do you think this is going? You have millions and millions of these people sadly supporting the children of the devil. I don't know how else to say it, they are so hell-bent on destroying lives. The majority of Israelis agree with this because it was taught to them. They are always the perpetual victim when in fact they were kicked out of over 100 countries over a thousand times throughout history because of their evil doings, not because of this perceived "victimhood".

The talmudic/ zionist jews ( And there's always the exception with the remnant) control the narrative in every area of society, including the Christian church. I believe that you can call yourself a Christian and not be born again. And I think this is the epidemic we face. There's only going to be a remnant of God's people, His chosen. Some of them will be Jews that forsake their demonic religion.

The question remains, how many of these people will reject the Jew world order, with its noahide laws that they are feverishly starting to put in place? I'm speaking very plainly because the time really is here. And there will be a separation. My Hope is that being in a forum such as this there will be some attention being given to this information.
 
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So if you don't mind this conversation, where do you think this is going? You have millions and millions of these people sadly supporting the children of the devil. I don't know how else to say it, they are so hell-bent on destroying lives. The majority of Israelis agree with this because it was taught to them. They are always the perpetual victim when in fact they were kicked out of over 100 countries over a thousand times throughout history because of their evil doings, not because of this perceived "victimhood".

The talmudic/ zionist jews ( And there's always the exception with the remnant) control the narrative in every area of society, including the Christian church. I believe that you can call yourself a Christian and not be born again. And I think this is the epidemic we face. There's only going to be a remnant of God's people, His chosen. Some of them will be Jews that forsake their demonic religion.

The question remains, how many of these people will reject the Jew world order, with its noahide laws that they are feverishly starting to put in place? I'm speaking very plainly because the time really is here. And there will be a separation. My Hope is that being in a forum such as this there will be some attention being given to this information.

"And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.. Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition."

"But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. ,I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?"

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

If they are so easily deceived by one such as Scofield, how will they not be deceived when the false Christ appears?
 
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"And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.. Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition."

"But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. ,I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?"

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

If they are so easily deceived by one such as Scofield, how will they not be deceived when the false Christ appears?
BRILLIANT ANSWER
 
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And guess what? I don't agree with that. Believe it or not, I'm not a Hamas sympathizer. HOWEVER, It's pure idiocy or lunacy with a touch of demonic spirit to think that you have to wipe out a whole countryside, a whole city to root out terrorists.

You are an Islamic apologist! Hamas is the government taken over by Islamic Jihadi’s who call themselves Hamas, which means in the language violence.
 

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You are an Islamic apologist! Hamas is the government taken over by Islamic Jihadi’s who call themselves Hamas, which means in the language violence.
One of the primary source of funding from Hamas comes from Benjamin netanyahu. How crazy is that? Isn't he like one of God's chosen people?
 
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One of the primary source of funding from Hamas comes from Benjamin netanyahu. How crazy is that? Isn't he like one of God's chosen people?
You are playing right into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood narrative.
Long before Hamas existed and before Netanyahu had ANY political power, Israel approved humanitarian aid BY QATAR to Palistinians in Gaza during the 70s-80s.
Hamas was not created until 1987. This was allowed because the Israeli government preferred negotiations with them rather than the PLO and Arafat.
Stop promoting the leftist lies.
 

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The Nakba (often misspelled as knockba, meaning "the catastrophe" in Arabic) refers to the mass displacement and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians surrounding the creation of the State of Israel.
The foundational events of the Nakba primarily occurred between November 1947 and July 1949, with the most intense period of expulsion happening in 1948. During this time, Zionist paramilitaries and later the Israeli military expelled or forced around 750,000 Palestinians to flee their homes and destroyed over 500

@Jericho Please help me if I am incorrect on this. Maybe I have the dates wrong?

I understand the Arab countries told the Palestinians to leave their homes, many who did. Because the Arab countries never thought they would lose land to Israel in a war.
 

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@Jericho Please help me if I am incorrect on this. Maybe I have the dates wrong?

I understand the Arab countries told the Palestinians to leave their homes, many who did. Because the Arab countries never thought they would lose land to Israel in a war.

@Jericho Please help me if I am incorrect on this. Maybe I have the dates wrong?

I understand the Arab countries told the Palestinians to leave their homes, many who did. Because the Arab countries never thought they would lose land to Israel in a war.
Excuse me, excuse me. This is factual information that I pulled up off of the internet. Do you know anything about Erdogan The first prime minister of Israel? Do you know anything about the bombing of the King David hotel? I think you have a lot to learn. Or maybe you don't want to know about how that state was formed. Maybe you don't want to know the vile creatures behind it.
 
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