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I dont know of any English Bible that's based on the Textus Receptus other than the KJV, perhaps you can enlighten the forums with your knowledge of the others you claim?

The New King James Version is based upon the Majority text type, I don't know of any others?
The NKJV is based on the TR, not the Majority Text.

Off the top of my head, the following are based on the T.R.: the Webster's Bible, Wesley's New Testament, Revised Common Version, Voice in the Wilderness Bible, Modern English Version, New King James Version, Modern King James Version, LITV, KJ3, The October Testament (a modern revision of the Matthew's Bible N.T.), Revised Geneva New Testament, Young's Literal Translation (and there's a modern revision of its N.T.). There are others, but I can't remember them all off-hand.

Then there are some based on the Majority Text: World English Bible, English Majority Text Version (N.T. only), Analytical Literal Translation (N.T. only), Wilbur Pickering's New Testament and the Text Critical New Testament (there's also a Greek Orthodox one, but I can't recall its name).
 

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The book of Enoch warns of this there are actually 3 warnings

The Warning of Corrupted Words: A time when eternal truths, scripture, or moral teachings are perverted, making lies sound like truth and distorting righteous doctrine
The Warning of Divided Blood / Family Fracture: A breakdown within human relationships where social and familial bonds fracture from within (such as children turning against parents
The Warning of the Great Falling Away (Apostasy and Deception): A deep spiritual condition characterized by widespread deception, a loss of the fear of God, and lukewarm or performative faith among believers

They are happening right now.
 
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The NKJV is based on the TR, not the Majority Text.

Off the top of my head, the following are based on the T.R.: the Webster's Bible, Wesley's New Testament, Revised Common Version, Voice in the Wilderness Bible, Modern English Version, New King James Version, Modern King James Version, LITV, KJ3, The October Testament (a modern revision of the Matthew's Bible N.T.), Revised Geneva New Testament, Young's Literal Translation (and there's a modern revision of its N.T.). There are others, but I can't remember them all off-hand.

Then there are some based on the Majority Text: World English Bible, English Majority Text Version (N.T. only), Analytical Literal Translation (N.T. only), Wilbur Pickering's New Testament and the Text Critical New Testament (there's also a Greek Orthodox one, but I can't recall its name).
Thanks for the response!

The NKJV uses the corrupt critical edition in the Old Testament created by Rudolph Kittle (1853-1929) "Biblia Hebraica" that's used in most of the modern counterfeits, the 1611 KJV uses the historical Hebrew Masoretic Text, following the Ben Asher closely

Thanks for the response!

Wikipedia: New King James Version (NKJV) is a translation of the Bible in contemporary English, working as a revision of the King James Version. Published by Thomas Nelson, the complete NKJV was released in 1982. With regard to its textual basis, the NKJV relies on a modern critical edition (the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia) for the Old Testament,[1] while opting to use the Textus Receptus for the New Testament.[2][a]
 
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The NKJV is based on the TR, not the Majority Text.

Off the top of my head, the following are based on the T.R.: the Webster's Bible, Revised Common Version,
The Webster Bible is a "Revision" of the KJV and the Common Version is a "Revision" of the Webster bible
 

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Thanks for the response!

The NKJV uses the corrupt critical edition in the Old Testament created by Rudolph Kittle (1853-1929) "Biblia Hebraica" that's used in most of the modern counterfeits, the 1611 KJV uses the historical Hebrew Masoretic Text, following the Ben Asher closely

Thanks for the response!

Wikipedia: New King James Version (NKJV) is a translation of the Bible in contemporary English, working as a revision of the King James Version. Published by Thomas Nelson, the complete NKJV was released in 1982. With regard to its textual basis, the NKJV relies on a modern critical edition (the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia) for the Old Testament,[1] while opting to use the Textus Receptus for the New Testament.[2][a]
I didn't address the O.T. text; but you're right, the NKJV uses an edition of the Biblia Hebraica.
 

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The Webster Bible is a "Revision" of the KJV and the Common Version is a "Revision" of the Webster bible
The "Common Version" was a kind of nickname for the Webster. The Revised Common Version is a modernised revision of that; however, the Webster and the R.C.V. are still different translations from the K.J.V., although the Webster is very closely based on it.
 

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The "Common Version" was a kind of nickname for the Webster. The Revised Common Version is a modernised revision of that; however, the Webster and the R.C.V. are still different translations from the K.J.V., although the Webster is very closely based on it.
The Webster was a "Revision" of the KJV not a translation, Webster changed archaic and offensive words, he didn't use a Greek text to do so, it would have been a translation if he did use a Greek text

Wikipedia: Webster's Revision
Noah Webster's 1833 limited revision of the King James Version, (more commonly called Webster Bible) focused mainly on replacing archaic words and making simple grammatical changes. For example: "why" instead of "wherefore", "its" instead of "his" when referring to nonliving things, "male child" instead of "manchild", etc.[1] He also introduced euphemisms to remove words which he found to be offensive: "whore" becomes "lewd woman". He changed some of the spelling of the 1611 version, some of which had been changed by British usage since 1611 and others that he himself had deliberately changed in his dictionary to reflect an American identity over a British one.
 

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The Webster was a "Revision" of the KJV not a translation, Webster changed archaic and offensive words, he didn't use a Greek text to do so, it would have been a translation if he did use a Greek text

Wikipedia: Webster's Revision
Noah Webster's 1833 limited revision of the King James Version, (more commonly called Webster Bible) focused mainly on replacing archaic words and making simple grammatical changes. For example: "why" instead of "wherefore", "its" instead of "his" when referring to nonliving things, "male child" instead of "manchild", etc.[1] He also introduced euphemisms to remove words which he found to be offensive: "whore" becomes "lewd woman". He changed some of the spelling of the 1611 version, some of which had been changed by British usage since 1611 and others that he himself had deliberately changed in his dictionary to reflect an American identity over a British one.
A revision is still a translation, albeit a minor one (e.g. Webster, correctly, changed "Easter" to "Passover").
 

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A revision is still a translation, albeit a minor one (e.g. Webster, correctly, changed "Easter" to "Passover").
I Disagree

A "Translation" is from one language to another, in this case from the (Hebrew/Greek) language to the (English) language

Webster did nothing more than "Minimal" word changes within the "English Language" (English/English) no translating performed, his work was a very minor "Revision" of the KJV

Jesus Is The Lord

Wikipedia: Webster's Revision
Noah Webster's 1833 limited revision of the King James Version, (more commonly called Webster Bible) focused mainly on replacing archaic words and making simple grammatical changes. For example: "why" instead of "wherefore", "its" instead of "his" when referring to nonliving things, "male child" instead of "manchild", etc.[1] He also introduced euphemisms to remove words which he found to be offensive: "whore" becomes "lewd woman". He changed some of the spelling of the 1611 version, some of which had been changed by British usage since 1611 and others that he himself had deliberately changed in his dictionary to reflect an American identity over a British one.
 

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I Disagree

A "Translation" is from one language to another, in this case from the (Hebrew/Greek) language to the (English) language

Webster did nothing more than "Minimal" word changes within the "English Language" (English/English) no translating performed, his work was a very minor "Revision" of the KJV

Jesus Is The Lord

Wikipedia: Webster's Revision
Noah Webster's 1833 limited revision of the King James Version, (more commonly called Webster Bible) focused mainly on replacing archaic words and making simple grammatical changes. For example: "why" instead of "wherefore", "its" instead of "his" when referring to nonliving things, "male child" instead of "manchild", etc.[1] He also introduced euphemisms to remove words which he found to be offensive: "whore" becomes "lewd woman". He changed some of the spelling of the 1611 version, some of which had been changed by British usage since 1611 and others that he himself had deliberately changed in his dictionary to reflect an American identity over a British one.
Here's a quote, by Webster himself, from the preface to the Webster Bible.

"A few errors in the translation, which are admitted on all hands to be obvious, have been corrected; and some obscure passages, illustrated. In making these amendments, I have consulted the original languages, and also several translations and commentaries. In the body of the work, my aim has been to preserve, but, in certain passages, more clearly to express the sense of the present version."

As you can see, he did do a small amount of translation work, and did not merely update archaic English expressions and grammar.
 
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My feeling is that any version is sufficient for salvation purposes
That's not the point. Why eat junk food when you can feast on the pure word of God? Satan knows those who have been fed a diet depleted of nutrients are no threat to him.
 

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I didn't know where to post this video but Bible versions have usually been debated so put it here for you to see what is coming out.

Do not change the words of this.... New plagues will be added So why do they continue to make them.
 

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That's not the point. Why eat junk food when you can feast on the pure word of God? Satan knows those who have been fed a diet depleted of nutrients are no threat to him.
When one is starving...junk food looks good.

I believe that any version of the bible is good for material sufficiency.
Anyone can read the NT and come away knowing that:

1. They are a sinner.
2. God demands us to follow Him in order to be saved.
3. To follow God means to obey Him.

The above will be true for any version.

If one wants to dive deep into theology and really study the bible,,,
then we move to formal sufficiency and this must be studied.

Different versions must be used....
the Greek language must be used....
hermeneutics in general.

At this point I agree with your statement.
I would not use The Message or The New Testament,
both written (translated) by one person and put on the market.

I'm sure other versions can be added to the above,,,
Maybe The Passion version.

I think that, basically, we agree.
 

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When one is starving...junk food looks good.

I believe that any version of the bible is good for material sufficiency.
Anyone can read the NT and come away knowing that:

1. They are a sinner.
2. God demands us to follow Him in order to be saved.
3. To follow God means to obey Him.

The above will be true for any version.

If one wants to dive deep into theology and really study the bible,,,
then we move to formal sufficiency and this must be studied.

Different versions must be used....
the Greek language must be used....
hermeneutics in general.

At this point I agree with your statement.
I would not use The Message or The New Testament,
both written (translated) by one person and put on the market.

I'm sure other versions can be added to the above,,,
Maybe The Passion version.

I think that, basically, we agree.
Lets add a wee bit to that first reminder .
Because when i was first called i was as a three day hungry lamb
but not for just anything , BUT FOR TRUTH . HUNGER for the TRUTH is what THE GOD puts into the heart of a sheep .
that a fact my friend . And nothing less will even begin to do for a sheep . In the bible i could feast for hours .
Yet when men spoke on TBN i was empty and quickly left it . same with the churches doctrine
as i sat in them . There was no fullfilling desire in the doctrines of men . BUT PLENTY of FILLING
in that bible . TRUTH . and the TRUTH is ev en the tiniest blending in of a lie with Much TRUTH
A sheep can whiff and has zero desire to sit and be entertained by it . AND that again is a fact my friend .
For this cause was i BORN and for this cause came i into the world
to TESTIFY of TRUTH . And that is what satisfies a sheep . Even the wee bit of the tinest
bit of goats chow being blended into SHEEP CHOW , a sheep can whiff and has ZERO desire for it .
And if that seems hard to beleive , BELEIVE IT anway . ITS A FACT . I know .
GOD puts a whole new desire into the heart of a sheep .
 
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That's definitely one flakey dude.
so what is a major key in knowing whether one has the LOVE OF GOD
or whether one has the love of the world yet THINKS its the love of God .
LOOK at how they treat TRUTH . l ook at how they treat the very words of GOD in said scriptures .
Wanna know what i see when i behold these so called love churches
who are always hollering non stop that GOD is love and yet uses this to preach a sensual love of the world claoked as if it is of God .
I SEE when men bring bibles into such places and read such words
that when such words expose sins , errors
ALL of a sudden they light up , AND IT AINT WITH LOVE , its WITH HATE
as they cast them out and the words of GOD right out
EVEN saying GOD IS LOVE AND WE DONT JUDGE . NOW some might call that ironic
I cALL it a DELUSION . satan sold a harlots love to them and they bought it up as if IT WERE the love of GOD .
 
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