Flat Earth Theory

Peter1 said:

Gravitational Pull: The Earth has a massive amount of mass, which generates a strong inward gravitational force directed toward its center. This pull is significantly stronger than the outward centrifugal force created by the planet's rotation.

Rotation Rate vs. Speed: The Earth's rotation speed at the equator is roughly 1,000 mph, but this translates to a very slow angular velocity of only one rotation per 24 hours (about 0.000694 rpm). Because the rotation is so gradual, the centrifugal acceleration at the equator (\(v^2 / r\)) is a tiny fraction (about 0.3%) of the acceleration due to gravity (\(9.8\text{ m/s}^2\)). Gravity easily overwhelms it.

Why Small-Scale Experiments Differ: Small-scale demonstrations (such as spinning a wet tennis ball or toy globe) do not scale linearly because of the square-cube law and the dominance of surface tension and adhesion at small sizes compared to mass-based gravity. A small ball does not possess planetary mass, so gravity does not scale down into a tabletop experiment. However, gravity can be observed directly across all planets, moons, and massive celestial bodies in the solar system.

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A simple polite respectful fact-filled response

doctrox said:

Sure, you "decided to start" yesterday; that's not in dispute. But 4.5 months of silence here is the long game of a seeded sleeper.

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Nope. I hardly looked at the site after registering. Started checking a little more this week, found this thread interesting, and decided to comment. Everyone has to start somewhere.

doctrox said:

As such, you'd also be informed by your overlords that the Gleason map is not a 100% correct representation, which is why you "decided to start" here with that deceptive angle.

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My "overlords"? Who is that exactly?

And I just googled the most popular flat earth map and that's what came up for me. If you use a different one, let's see it.

doctrox said:

And CARM was a snakepit - a regular hangout (admittedly your only hangout) for every shill and troll in the business. Universalism was its ultimate downfall. CARM was run by Matt Slick (no pun intended). When CARM boards were running, one of the rules prohibited mentioning and discussing CARM in other boards. Slick's daughter publicly wrote about her deconversion from Christianity to atheism. Another daughter of Slick became publicly known for her work as an adult model and sex worker. Slick still carries on with his YouTube channel (which link I won't post here).

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Ok, none of that has anything to do with me. I'm sure it makes you feel superior though.

doctrox said:

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LOL! Two shills gushing over each other is the ultimate waste of resources.

Q: What’s the difference between a fan and a shill?
A: A fan actually pays for the ticket; the shill gets paid to pretend the stadium isn't empty.


The Gleason map has been stretched and distorted. The following is the lie foisted by "fact checkers":

"The Alexander Gleason map of 1892 is a polar azimuthal equidistant projection, which naturally distorts or "stretches" distances and shapes increasingly as you move away from the center point (the North Pole). Because the Earth is a sphere and these maps are flat, some form of distortion is mathematically unavoidable."

How disingenuous.

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Then show me the "accurate" flat-earth map please.

doctrox said:

FYI:
Crazy Ivan and Dryhn are one.

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If you mean that we're the same poster, you couldn't be more wrong.

Crazy Ivan said:

Nope. I hardly looked at the site after registering. Started checking a little more this week, found this thread interesting, and decided to comment. Everyone has to start somewhere.



My "overlords"? Who is that exactly?

And I just googled the most popular flat earth map and that's what came up for me. If you use a different one, let's see it.



Ok, none of that has anything to do with me. I'm sure it makes you feel superior though.

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So far only DavidNJ here appears to be the reasonable one to politely discuss his flat earth views with

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“The heliocentric theory, by putting the sun at the center of the universe ... made man appear to be just one of a possible host of wanderers drifting through a cold sky. It seemed less likely that he was born to live gloriously and to attain paradise upon his death. Less likely, too, was it that he was the object of God’s ministrations." - Morris Kline

By removing Earth from the motionless center of the Universe, these Masons have moved us physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference. If the Earth is the center of the Universe, then the ideas of God, creation, and a purpose for human existence are resplendent. But if the Earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars in billions of galaxies, then the ideas of God, creation, and a specific purpose for Earth and human existence become highly implausible.

Crazy Ivan said:

Ok, none of that has anything to do with me.

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Undoubtedly.




Disney's Three Musketeers are now on Ignore.

doctrox said:

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“The heliocentric theory, by putting the sun at the center of the universe ... made man appear to be just one of a possible host of wanderers drifting through a cold sky. It seemed less likely that he was born to live gloriously and to attain paradise upon his death. Less likely, too, was it that he was the object of God’s ministrations." -Morris Kline

By removing Earth from the motionless center of the Universe, these Masons have moved us physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference. If the Earth is the center of the Universe, then the ideas of God, creation, and a purpose for human existence are resplendent. But if the Earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars in billions of galaxies, then the ideas of God, creation, and a specific purpose for Earth and human existence become highly implausible.


Undoubtedly.

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Disney's Three Musketeers are now on Ignore.

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Unable to prove his claims so hides from those who have embarrassed him, poor little oxy

doctrox said:

the shill gets paid to pretend the stadium isn't empty.

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Yes this explains why flat earth theory and anti gravity rallies don't go over very well.

So when is the next flat earth theory and anti gravity rally anyway?
Where they spread the joy of flat earth theory and anti gravity and sell flat earth theory and anti gravity merch.

doctrox said:

Sure, you "decided to start" yesterday; that's not in dispute. But 4.5 months of silence here is the long game of a seeded sleeper.

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Why do you care so much?

If he was a flat earth theory and anti gravity guy you'd be over joyed he was here spreading the false gospel of flat earth theory and anti gravity

I got put on ignore ALREADY? hahahahahaha that's amazing. I didn't even DO anything. @doctrox just thinks that I'm someone else, and thinks that somehow I have something to do with Matt Slick, and then creates this entire narrative in his brain about me, and then puts me on ignore.

Well, if that's how his mind works, no WONDER he thinks the earth is flat.

Please someone tell me that he isn't in charge of anything important in this world.

For those of you who have flown long distances, you know that sometimes you fly from daylight into darkness, and from darkness into daylight. At any point in time, part of our current, real-world earth is in sunlight, and part is in the shade. Like, as I type this right now, where I live in Connecticut, it's not yet light. But you know where it IS nice light out right now? Cape Town, South Africa. I just got off a zoom call with a colleague there. It's cloudy there today but it is also quite clearly daylight. Here's a screenshot showing where on the earth it's in sunlight and where it's in darkness as I type. (it'll be different by the time some people read this)



Now, why in the world would some of the earth be in sunlight and some in darkness? If the earth is a flat plane, then the bright sunlight would be visible all over the earth at the same time. I know people talk about a magic moving sun that acts like a spotlight, only shining on part of our flat earth disk at a time, but we know that's utter nonsense. The sun is a giant ball of gas that emits light in all directions, and isn't unidirectional like a flashlight or spotlight.

So here's how sunlight would look if the earth was round(ish) versus flat.




The very fact that it's dark in some places in the world and light in others shows us that the earth isn't flat.

We have actual satellites right now in space that can show us images of the earth and guess what - it isn't flat. The people who deny this, are denying the very same technology that allows them to watch television or use their cell phones. Like, we actually have those satellites up in space right now doing marvelous (some not so marvelous) things for us.

This is a real time view of the earth from satellites in space, right now.



But I'm sure this is all nonsense given to us by our "overlords" or something. We're being faked out about all this because..........? There aren't REALLY satellites in space right now that can show us actual images of the earth. The sun really IS a flashlight moving around the disk of the earth only giving sunlight to part of it at a time, and it changes with the seasons. It really IS shorter from Santiago to Anchorage than from Santiago to Sydney, and those mileages I gave are all fake, and those flight times are explained just by the pilots choosing to do crazy routes to waste all that expensive fuel just to trick us all into believing that the earth is round, just to get under the skin of a small handful of people out there.

doctrox said:

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If you believe and bring forth a lie, then you go to the pit - Rev. 22:15. If you believe NASA's lies, and you bring them forth here, then you are headed to the pit. Can it be any plainer (pun intended)?

Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
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But there is a vast difference between "believing and bringing forth a lie" and having a different view about something. Here on these forums, there are Christians who differ with one another on all sorts of matters, for example, some believe it is right to baptize little babies, others believe that only believers should be baptized. Now, both cannot be correct, but neither side is lying. The same applies to belief about the shape of the earth. I don't agree with the notion that the earth is flat, but I certainly don't accuse those that do of telling lies.

doctrox said:

Indeed, even as NASA continues to hoax us. Ball earthers have no defense.

Here's what the hoaxers say:
"Ocean water stays on a spinning Earth because gravity is much stronger than the outward centrifugal force created by the planet's rotation."


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From the highland near Portsmouth Harbor in Hampshire, England looking across Spithead to the Isle of Wight, the entire base of the island, where water and land come together, composes a perfectly straight line 22 statute miles long. According to the ball-Earth theory, the Isle of Wight should decline 80 feet from the center on each side to account for the necessary curvature. The cross-hairs of a good theodolite directed there, however, have repeatedly shown the land and water line to be perfectly level.

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Straight is the Path and Narrow the WAY that leads to LIFE

David Lamb said:

But there is a vast difference between "believing and bringing forth a lie" and having a different view about something. Here on these forums, there are Christians who differ with one another on all sorts of matters, for example, some believe it is right to baptize little babies, others believe that only believers should be baptized. Now, both cannot be correct, but neither side is lying. The same applies to belief about the shape of the earth.

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Good Morning brother = well said and true

I don't agree with the notion that the earth is flat, but I certainly don't accuse those that do of telling lies.

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At least three have already said that those of us who are believing in the Biblical Account of the earth means that we are:

• reprobates
• lost in sin
• servants of Satan
• stupid
• idiots
• liars
• scripture twisters

Do you approve along with them???

David in NJ said:

Good Morning brother = well said and true


At least three have already said that those of us who are believing in the Biblical Account of the earth means that we are:

• reprobates
• lost in sin
• servants of Satan
• stupid
• idiots
• liars
• scripture twisters

Do you approve along with them???

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No, I don't agree with calling others names, or saying they are not saved, when posting on forums like this. As I said before, I don't agree with you about the earth's shape, but I would never call you any of those names you list, or anything similar. On another Christian forum, I remember many discussions with a dear Christian who believed the earth to be flat. Although we disagreed on that matter, we became great Christian friends. I miss her posts. (She had to leave the forum, as she was suffering from serious cancer.)

David in NJ said:

Good Morning brother = well said and true


At least three have already said that those of us who are believing in the Biblical Account of the earth means that we are:

• reprobates
• lost in sin
• servants of Satan
• stupid
• idiots
• liars
• scripture twisters

Do you approve along with them???

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Chief i been called them names and worse . Not for preaching flat earth or round earth
BUT FOR SIMPLY preaching JESUS THE CHRIST and exposing sins and etc .
WE gots far bigger fish to be frying david .
And allow me to remind us all something , NONE in polticis is to be hoped and trusted in at all .
HOPE ONLY and TRUST ONLY IN GOD , THUS IN CHRIST , THUS in HIS gospel and HIS words and test all men .
Texas went BLUE padnah . And when this new governor who had ran also big on
Stopping AI data centers , WHO TRUMP and his realm were IN MEGA BED WITH ,
Was asked are you gonna try and stop the AI data centers ,
HELLO SHE SAID THE IDENTICAL thing the GLOBAL elites said a few years back when they too spoke on it .
WELL NO she said , we just gonna make sure the rights of people are not taken away .
She should have said the rights of THE INCLUSIVE ONES , cause i ipromise us all
OUR rights david , the sheeps , NO SIR . we wil be shut out of that system .
ITS the same thing as was that big ol religious rights junk that was sold by popes
and later by tRUMP . IT AINT gonna protect the rights of any who is NOT ALL INclusive . that a fact jack .

David Lamb said:

No, I don't agree with calling others names, or saying they are not saved, when posting on forums like this. As I said before, I don't agree with you about the earth's shape, but I would never call you any of those names you list, or anything similar. On another Christian forum, I remember many discussions with a dear Christian who believed the earth to be flat. Although we disagreed on that matter, we became great Christian friends. I miss her posts. (She had to leave the forum, as she was suffering from serious cancer.)

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Sorry to hear about her suffering from cancer!

How is she today? Have you heard from her since?

Question: What have you been doing with the God given scientific evidence that can be clearly seen, observed and tested:
1 - WATER
2 - Straight Line Tests that PROVE no curvature
3 - World Record Long Distance photographs that PROVE no curvature
4 - 'gravity' PROVEN to be non-existent = thus a lie
5 - Boyancy/Displacement/Density

amigo de christo said:

Chief i been called them names and worse . Not for preaching flat earth or round earth
BUT FOR SIMPLY preaching JESUS THE CHRIST and exposing sins and etc .
WE gots far bigger fish to be frying david .
And allow me to remind us all something , NONE in polticis is to be hoped and trusted in at all .
HOPE ONLY and TRUST ONLY IN GOD , THUS IN CHRIST , THUS in HIS gospel and HIS words and test all men .
Texas went BLUE padnah . And when this new governor who had ran also big on
Stopping AI data centers , WHO TRUMP and his realm were IN MEGA BED WITH ,
Was asked are you gonna try and stop the AI data centers ,
HELLO SHE SAID THE IDENTICAL thing the GLOBAL elites said a few years back when they too spoke on it .
WELL NO she said , we just gonna make sure the rights of people are not taken away .
She should have said the rights of THE INCLUSIVE ONES , cause i ipromise us all
OUR rights david , the sheeps , NO SIR . we wil be shut out of that system .
ITS the same thing as was that big ol religious rights junk that was sold by popes
and later by tRUMP . IT AINT gonna protect the rights of any who is NOT ALL INclusive . that a fact jack .

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YES, INDEED this is 'chump-change' compared to the many lies that are building into the BIG LIE

David in NJ said:

Sorry to hear about her suffering from cancer!

How is she today? Have you heard from her since?

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No, I have no recent news of her. She became too ill to use the computer. I continue to pray for her, but I realise the Lord may have already taken her to be with Himself.

David in NJ said:

Question: What have you been doing with the God given scientific evidence that can be clearly seen, observed and tested:
1 - WATER
2 - Straight Line Tests that PROVE no curvature
3 - World Record Long Distance photographs that PROVE no curvature
4 - 'gravity' PROVEN to be non-existent = thus a lie
5 - Boyancy/Displacement/Density

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I don't agree that any of those things prove the shape of the earth. I'll leave it there. Thanks for the post.

David Lamb said:

No, I have no recent news of her. She became too ill to use the computer. I continue to pray for her, but I realise the Lord may have already taken her to be with Himself.

I don't agree that any of those things prove the shape of the earth. I'll leave it there. Thanks for the post.

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David,
The Jewish rabbis, leaders and most of the Jews rejected the Facts presented to them = even to this day!!!

Thank GOD you have not rejected Salvation in CHRIST

The Facts presented to you/everyone Originated from the Truth from God's Word/Genesis!!!

Unbelief is the #1 deterrent that prevents our minds/hearts from being Lifted in the Upward Calling in Christ Jesus our LORD

David in NJ said:

Question: What have you been doing with the God given scientific evidence that can be clearly seen, observed and tested:
1 - WATER
2 - Straight Line Tests that PROVE no curvature
3 - World Record Long Distance photographs that PROVE no curvature
4 - 'gravity' PROVEN to be non-existent = thus a lie
5 - Boyancy/Displacement/Density

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LOL what?

David in NJ said:

David,
The Jewish rabbis, leaders and most of the Jews rejected the Facts presented to them = even to this day!!!

Thank GOD you have not rejected Salvation in CHRIST

The Facts presented to you/everyone Originated from the Truth from God's Word/Genesis!!!

Unbelief is the #1 deterrent that prevents our minds/hearts from being Lifted in the Upward Calling in Christ Jesus our LORD

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Yes, I thank God that my salvation is in Christ.

I believe the Bible to be God's word, and that includes Genesis.