Flat Earth Theory

David in NJ said:

David,
The Jewish rabbis, leaders and most of the Jews rejected the Facts presented to them = even to this day!!!

Thank GOD you have not rejected Salvation in CHRIST

The Facts presented to you/everyone Originated from the Truth from God's Word/Genesis!!!

Unbelief is the #1 deterrent that prevents our minds/hearts from being Lifted in the Upward Calling in Christ Jesus our LORD

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And for years upon years and for d ecades upon decades
m any have chosen to Rather BELEIVE man and NOT GOD .
And more and more now even in the church have long chosen to beleive a harlots love as though it be the Love of God .
Does anyone remember what happened to Israel when they sent out certain leaders to spy the land .
GOD had told them TWO T HINGS . HE was going to be WITH THEM and their enemies would have no power over them .
HE had also told them I am sending you into A GOOD LAND , a land that f lows of milk and honey .
Keep those two things in mind .
Now upon seeing the great and mighty giants of the land
FEAR overtook them . They , cept for two , beleived the mighty men would crush them .
THEY then brought back a false report OF the land .
One that implied its not a good land at all .
AND GROWN ISRAEL beleived them . NOT GOD .
THEY NEVER ENTERED INTO REST DID THEY DAVID .
they died the wilderness and the babes who could not discern grew up and THEY were allowed into the land later .
NOTICE that neither the ones who gave the evil report
nor those who beleived that evil report ever once said HEY WE DONT BELEIVE IN GOD .
BUT THEY DARN SURE DID NOT BELEIVE HIS WORDS .
UNBELIEF is far more deadiler than most realize david .
SHEEP BELEIVE IN GOD , IN HIS CHRIST and BELIEVE HIS WORDS .
lippers in wool only believe what men say about such words , as they TWIST them .

The shape of the earth isn't a salvation question. At no point when Jesus or the apostles were preaching the gospel did they ever even come close to saying that as a requirement for salvation the person had to believe the earth was flat.

The vast majority of authentic born-again, Spirit-filled Christians know that the earth is spherical in shape. But that doesn't impact their salvation. A small minority of authentic born-again, Spirit-filled Christians believe that the earth is flat in shape. They're wrong, but that doesn't impact their salvation either.

What must I do to be saved? asked the Philippian jailer.
Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, replied Paul and Silas.

David in NJ said:

David,
The Jewish rabbis, leaders and most of the Jews rejected the Facts presented to them = even to this day!!!

Thank GOD you have not rejected Salvation in CHRIST

The Facts presented to you/everyone Originated from the Truth from God's Word/Genesis!!!

Unbelief is the #1 deterrent that prevents our minds/hearts from being Lifted in the Upward Calling in Christ Jesus our LORD

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FAITH . it has always been FAITH that pleases God .
FAITH entials WE not only BELIEVE ON HIS CHRIST but that we had beleived HIM .
That b e a fact david . for many now follow another jesus . and that there jesus of theirs
Calls THE JESUS a liar . WHO we gonna believe DAVID , will it be let men be true and GOD a liar
OR IS IT GONNA BE LET GOD BE TRUE but every man a liar .
And he or she who twists the WORDS OF GOD , DO CALL GOD A LIAR and they will NOT be heeded by the sheep .
Cause JESUS WHO IS THE TRUTH , THE SPIRIT WHO IS THE TRUTH
does lead THE SHEEP . oh but the SPIRIT SURELY DOES lead the sheep .
And not into the lies of hirelings who twist it unto their own destruction ,
but INTO ALL TRUTH . AND ALL TRUTH BE OF GOD and not of man .
Just a friendly reminder , IAM QUITE sure you already KNOW . How do we treat the HOLY scriptures
IS A HUGE KEY as to whose we are my friend . And who we serve my friend
and PROOF of whose SPIRIT is in us my friend . MANY despise truth and rather heed sciences of men
evolutions and carnal physcologies of men
and twisted doctrines of leaders in wool . SHEEP FOLLOW JESUS .
WHO for this cause came into the world , TO TESTIFY OF THE TRUTH . Now to the trenches my friend . The hour is very late .

Crazy Ivan said:

The shape of the earth isn't a salvation question. At no point when Jesus or the apostles were preaching the gospel did they ever even come close to saying that as a requirement for salvation the person had to believe the earth was flat.

The vast majority of authentic born-again, Spirit-filled Christians know that the earth is spherical in shape. But that doesn't impact their salvation. A small minority of authentic born-again, Spirit-filled Christians believe that the earth is flat in shape. They're wrong, but that doesn't impact their salvation either.

What must I do to be saved? asked the Philippian jailer.
Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, replied Paul and Silas.

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Why then let us tell THAT to this all inclusive ecumeincal generation .
WHO has sold A LIE to the false religoins and to christendom .
A LIE that entials it was NOT necessary to have had to BELIEVED ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
cause we cant have it both ways my friend .
WE cannot both cliam to BELEIVE and then turn around and play patty cakes
with all the false religoins and act as IF we all serve the same GOD in different ways .
TO do so is DEAD FAITH AND TOTAL UNBELEIF .
EITHER WE BELIEVE or we do not BELEIVE
but it cannot be both . two plus two is four , not five , three , six or whatever one beleives it to be .
WELL HELLO the same goes for THE GOSPEL . its not OH I BELIEVE but its okay if one dont .
No sir that is false dead lip service faith and only a co helper to anti christ and NOT TO CHRIST .

Crazy Ivan said:

The shape of the earth isn't a salvation question. At no point when Jesus or the apostles were preaching the gospel did they ever even come close to saying that as a requirement for salvation the person had to believe the earth was flat.

The vast majority of authentic born-again, Spirit-filled Christians know that the earth is spherical in shape. But that doesn't impact their salvation. A small minority of authentic born-again, Spirit-filled Christians believe that the earth is flat in shape. They're wrong, but that doesn't impact their salvation either.

What must I do to be saved? asked the Philippian jailer.
Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, replied Paul and Silas.

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Exactly , BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS .
And now a word . BEWARE , however , for many now follow and beleive in another jesus .
One that calls the gospel OF THE TRUE JESUS a lie and has made very darn inclusive and BROAD the way TO GOD .
SO allow me to sum up what PLEASES GOD .
FAITH . AND HE has called us to NOW PUT ALL FAITH INTO THE SON .
And faith not only entials we beleive ON JESUS but that we BELIEVE HIS WORDS .
Israel found out the d eadly and destrutive way
what it means to CLIAM to BELIEVE ON GOD and YET TO NOT BELIEVE HIS WORDS .
Faith entials we BELEIVE ON HIM and THUS ON HIS WORDS , HIS GOSPEL
and TRUTH inspired by GOD , by the SPIRIT .
many seem to overlook things that were clearly written for our own admonition .
MANY choose to rather heed men who twist the scrips , om its certain scrips and what they mean
and heed rather men who please NOT GOD , but the flesh of man .

David Lamb said:

Yes, I thank God that my salvation is in Christ.

I believe the Bible to be God's word, and that includes Genesis.

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Exactly , BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS .
And now a word . BEWARE , however , for many now follow and beleive in another jesus .
One that calls the gospel OF THE TRUE JESUS a lie and has made very darn inclusive and BROAD the way TO GOD .
SO allow me to sum up what PLEASES GOD .
FAITH . AND HE has called us to NOW PUT ALL FAITH INTO THE SON .
And faith not only entials we beleive ON JESUS but that we BELIEVE HIS WORDS .
Israel found out the d eadly and destrutive way
what it means to CLIAM to BELIEVE ON GOD and YET TO NOT BELIEVE HIS WORDS .
Faith entials we BELEIVE ON HIM and THUS ON HIS WORDS , HIS GOSPEL
and TRUTH inspired by GOD , by the SPIRIT .
many seem to overlook things that were clearly written for our own admonition .
MANY choose to rather heed men who twist the scrips , omit certain scrips and what they mean
and heed rather men who please NOT GOD , but the flesh of man .

a sin accepting god is NOT THE GOD .
A flesh pleasing god is NOT THE GOD .
A god who seeks and aims to please man and calls evil good and good evil , IS NOT THE GOD .
And it darn sure can even use the name OF JESUS and preach another jesus .
m arvel not that satans minstirs can appear in wool .
HE himself can appear as an angel of light , and YET THERE IS NO LIGHT IN HIM .
And if the light that be in one is darkness , THEN GREAT BE THAT DARKNESS . we gots us an infiltrator
and many who now do his bidding and his work . They sell lies claoked as love to this people
and sadly many seem to love to have it so .

David Lamb said:

Yes, I thank God that my salvation is in Christ.

I believe the Bible to be God's word, and that includes Genesis.

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always let us all remember , any god who sells lies as though its love , IT AINT GOD and it aint HIS LOVE .
The LOVE OF GOD , aka charity , IT REJIOCES ONLY IN THE TRUTH .
Something this generation seems to not only no longer rejoice in
but makes war against any time a man brings a bible with TRUTH IN IT to expose what it is they loved , as in sin and lies .

David in NJ said:

Good Morning brother = well said and true


At least three have already said that those of us who are believing in the Biblical Account of the earth means that we are:

• reprobates
• lost in sin
• servants of Satan
• stupid
• idiots
• liars
• scripture twisters

Do you approve along with them???

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always let us all remember , any god who sells lies as though its love , IT AINT GOD and it aint HIS LOVE .
The LOVE OF GOD , aka charity , IT REJIOCES ONLY IN THE TRUTH .
Something this generation seems to not only no longer rejoice in
but makes war against any time a man brings a bible with TRUTH IN IT to expose what it is they loved , as in sin and lies .

David in NJ said:

David,
The Jewish rabbis, leaders and most of the Jews rejected the Facts presented to them = even to this day!!!

Thank GOD you have not rejected Salvation in CHRIST

The Facts presented to you/everyone Originated from the Truth from God's Word/Genesis!!!

Unbelief is the #1 deterrent that prevents our minds/hearts from being Lifted in the Upward Calling in Christ Jesus our LORD

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Let us always remember one cannot have and serve both the love of the world and the Love of God .
for they will indeed cling to ONE and despise the other .
For the sheep we CLING TO THE TRUTH and despise evil doctrines and lies .
For the LOVE OF GOD has indeed been planted upon the heart of the sheep , and HIS LOVE
REJOICES ONLY in THE TRUTH .
But unto those whose love is of the world
Watch how they treat the words in that bible. as i said they will cling to one and hate the other .
MANY have cast out the Words of God in favor of a harlots love .
NOT THE SHEEP david . FOR JESUS has the sheep .
Now if that statement seems hard to grasp or understand .
WHY i give us all a challenge to do today .
GO INTO these love churches who always holler judge not God is love
who are sat under ecumeincalism inclusivism .
BRING A BIBLE . speak words IN that bible and the moment such words
contradict what it is they do love , SEE HOW FAST THEY LOVE THAT and the person who brought such words .
The love of teh world pleases ONLY the f lesh of man and NOT GOD .
THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASES GOD . and that a fact my friend .

David Lamb said:

Yes, I thank God that my salvation is in Christ.

I believe the Bible to be God's word, and that includes Genesis.

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so what is a major key in knowing whether one has the LOVE OF GOD
or whether one has the love of the world yet THINKS its the love of God .
LOOK at how they treat TRUTH . l ook at how they treat the very words of GOD in said scriptures .
Wanna know what i see when i behold these so called love churches
who are always hollering non stop that GOD is love and yet uses this to preach a sensual love of the world claoked as if it is of God .
I SEE when men bring bibles into such places and read such words
that when such words expose sins , errors
ALL of a sudden they light up , AND IT AINT WITH LOVE , its WITH HATE
as they cast them out and the words of GOD right out
EVEN saying GOD IS LOVE AND WE DONT JUDGE . NOW some might call that ironic
I cALL it a DELUSION baby . satan sold a harlots love to them and they bought it up as if IT WERE the love of GOD .

amigo de christo said:

Exactly , BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS .
And now a word . BEWARE , however , for many now follow and beleive in another jesus .
One that calls the gospel OF THE TRUE JESUS a lie and has made very darn inclusive and BROAD the way TO GOD .
SO allow me to sum up what PLEASES GOD .
FAITH . AND HE has called us to NOW PUT ALL FAITH INTO THE SON .
And faith not only entials we beleive ON JESUS but that we BELIEVE HIS WORDS .
Israel found out the d eadly and destrutive way
what it means to CLIAM to BELIEVE ON GOD and YET TO NOT BELIEVE HIS WORDS .
Faith entials we BELEIVE ON HIM and THUS ON HIS WORDS , HIS GOSPEL
and TRUTH inspired by GOD , by the SPIRIT .
many seem to overlook things that were clearly written for our own admonition .
MANY choose to rather heed men who twist the scrips , om its certain scrips and what they mean
and heed rather men who please NOT GOD , but the flesh of man .

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I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Your posting style isn't easy to read.

If this is your way of saying that we need to believe in Jesus - His Lordship, His death and resurrection - to be saved, then I agree. If this is your way of saying that you need to believe the earth is flat to be saved, then you're just making stuff up.

David Lamb said:

Yes, I thank God that my salvation is in Christ.

I believe the Bible to be God's word, and that includes Genesis.

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Do you believe Genesis declares a spinning sphere earth that orbits the sun and water curves & clings around it?

David in NJ said:

Do you believe Genesis declares a spinning sphere earth that orbits the sun and water curves & clings around it?

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Genesis presents something very clear my friend .
And that is when one heeds the serpent and beleives it rather than GOD
EXPECT NOTHING GOOD to come of that .
Everyone wants to blame God because of all the wickedness in this world .
and just as the man blamed the woman and the woman the seperpent ...........
THEY WAS ALL AT fault . And the very reason death and the curse came upon THIS ENTIRE WORLD .
IF one dont heed God , well then it dont bode well at all for such a soul .
AND IF ONE wont heed and receive THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN AND WHO DID SAVE MAN
well then Second death only awaits them all .
YOU SEE it TOOK GOD to do what had to be done for man to be set free from death and HE who had the power of death .
And budda DONT CUT IT , nor do muhammed or any other false relgion .
YOU see i said IT TOOK GOD , as iN GOD to do what man could not do .
AND IF ONE DENIES HIS CHRIST , OH THEY DO and they have DENIED GOD .
I am DONE WITH FALSE GOSPELS david . Long DONE . they wont be tolerated a second on my watch .
A false gospel does two things . IT T OTALLY DISHONORS THE SON , THUS that do mean GOD .
AND it wont be saving SQUAT didly the doo either . IT WILL DAMN THEM ALL .
So i give the ecumeincal harlots doctrine of her all inclusive gods doctrine the boot , OUT . no false gospel
ALLOWED on my watch . And a sin accepting jesus DONT Exist either. ALl that does is DISHONOR GOD
and promote only REBELLION . And this wee lil sheep Exposes that dung pile doctrine . NO matter
the cost .

David in NJ said:

Do you believe Genesis declares a spinning sphere earth that orbits the sun and water curves & clings around it?

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how about a motto for us all .
IF IT IN ANY WAY DISHONORS GOD it wont be accepted nor allowed to be taught on our watch .
And guess what that means .
IF it in any way dishonors the SON , it gets the BOOT OUT .
For if it in any way DISHONORS the SON , OH IT DO DISHONOR GOD .
And guess what ................SIN LIES and UNBELEIF , TOTALLY DISHONOR GOD .
SO guess what gets exposed on my watch .
ALL of the above does . You see i aint in the business
of holding hands with a harlot or with any THAT OPENLY and WILLFULLY REJECTS GOD .
And might i suggest we all go and do likewise .
WE OWE GOD EVERYTHING . HE saved us david , NOT WE OURSELVES , HE DID .
And i think its HIGH DARN TIME this sold out ecmeincal harlot loving al inclusive anti christ peace plan
generation GETS AHOLD of that MEMO REAL fast .
I dont sit with and find common ground with satan . and if we sit with and find common ground with that mess
THEN WE DO SIT and find common ground with satan . a fact this generation better face and wake up too real fast .

David in NJ said:

Do you believe Genesis declares a spinning sphere earth that orbits the sun and water curves & clings around it?

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i have a far far better question for us all .
Does anyone here believe Genesis , or any other letter in that bible
in any way promotes honoring a harlot , satan or anti christ .
Cause i sure dont see that at all . Rather i see its all about HONORING GOD and doing what does bring
Him the honor and the glory .
So .
SO why am i seeing anyone who even dares to lip the name of JESUS
even sitting under anything ecumeincal inclusive and its world anti christ peace plan . its sin accepting false love
and TROD the SON UNDER FOOT lie .
Cause i have to be very open and real honest . THAT DARN SURE DONT PLEASE GOD . rebellion
to GOD has never pleased GOD . And that is what that HARLOT LEADS ALL RIGHT INTO .
A generation that hates GOD more than ever and will soon bring blood upon the sheep who did not conform
to a harlots love and her anti christ peace .

David in NJ said:

Do you believe Genesis declares a spinning sphere earth that orbits the sun and water curves & clings around it?

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And speaking of Round .
whether one thinks the earth be flat or round
I SURE SEES lots of folks in wool that run all round calling good evil and evil good .
Watch how quickly all who so will scatter ON JESUS DAY . And seeing i dont desire their death and destruction
its why i go a ROUND trying to warn all not to gather round a harlot and her anti christ peace .
CAUSE all who are not with ME , said JESUS , are against ME .
And all who gather not with ME , said JESUS , WILL SCATTER ............................
Peace n safety , MY HIND FOOT . ITS A LYING SPIRIT simply promising the false relgions , much of christendom and the world
A lie they beleive GONNA BRING em all peace n safety . BUT mark my words dav id ,
IT WONT be peace n safety for them ON JESUS DAY . this is a delusion my friend and on that i have NO Doubt
and its b een sent unto the false relgions as well as unto the scripture twisters
for to do one thing , cause them all to beleive A LIE they beleive will bring peace n safety ,
BUT oh it will be their sudden destruction . Remember what peter once wrote .
THEY TWIST the scrips unto what ...............................THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION .

amigo de christo said:

i have a far far better question for us all .
Does anyone here believe Genesis , or any other letter in that bible
in any way promotes honoring a harlot , satan or anti christ .
Cause i sure dont see that at all . Rather i see its all about HONORING GOD and doing what does bring
Him the honor and the glory .
So .
SO why am i seeing anyone who even dares to lip the name of JESUS
even sitting under anything ecumeincal inclusive and its world anti christ peace plan . its sin accepting false love
and TROD the SON UNDER FOOT lie .
Cause i have to be very open and real honest . THAT DARN SURE DONT PLEASE GOD . rebellion
to GOD has never pleased GOD . And that is what that HARLOT LEADS ALL RIGHT INTO .
A generation that hates GOD more than ever and will soon bring blood upon the sheep who did not conform
to a harlots love and her anti christ peace .

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The two common denominators in all of these forum discussions are:

A.) GOD Said
b.) Serpent said

JESUS expressed these two choices throughout His Gospel

Also He said to them, “Is a lamp brought to be put under a basket or under a bed? Is it not to be set on a lampstand?
For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light.
If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.”

Then He said to them, “Take heed what you hear. With the same measure you use, it will be measured to you;
and to you who hear, more will be given.
For whoever has, to him more will be given; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.


Today's Truth Challenge = To whom are you listening to?

So you guys take a very narrow and particular interpretation of some Scripture - a take that isn't remotely agreed upon by many/most Christian Bible scholars (not the liberal "I don't really believe this stuff" scholars but the actual born again, evangelical scholars) - and decide that you'll stick to that even though that view runs smack into the hard brick wall called real-world reality that we actually live in, and then claim that if people don't believe what you have decided is true, that they're going to hell because they're not believing in Jesus?

Goodness.

Crazy Ivan said:

So you guys take a very narrow and particular interpretation of some Scripture - a take that isn't remotely agreed upon by many/most Christian Bible scholars (not the liberal "I don't really believe this stuff" scholars but the actual born again, evangelical scholars) - and decide that you'll stick to that even though that view runs smack into the hard brick wall called real-world reality that we actually live in, and then claim that if people don't believe what you have decided is true, that they're going to hell because they're not believing in Jesus?

Goodness.

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Salvation = Gospel = Genesis 22:1-18 , Isaiah ch53 , John ch3 , 1 Cor 15:1-4 , Acts chapter 2 , Acts chapter 10

Christian Growth/Maturity = Genesis , Matt 4:4 , John 13:34 ,15:14-18 & chapter 17 , Eph ch4 , Revelation

Mistaken Identity = Matthew 7:21-23