Poll. Will we be judged when we die?

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Will we be judged when we die?


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PinSeeker

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Regarding Gal 2:7-9
Who are you in those verses ?
I've said several times I'm a Gentile.

Who is the Apostle to teach you the Gospel ?
All of them. <smile> They all preached God's Word, after all...

You seem to unable to answer simple questions so let me help you
None needed. I could, but I will not answer them the way you want me to... Sam I am. I would not do it in a house, or with a mouse. I would not do it in a box or with a fox. I would not do it, Sam I am... Because to do so would be... yeah, way, way to simple, and wrong-headed.

I am the gentile/heathen in those verses... Paul is the Apostle to teach me the Gospel
Ah yeah, so nothing Peter, or John, or James, or any of the others had or has any relevance to you. Yeah, okay, I mean you're welcome to your own simple thoughts, for sure. You do you, man. <smile>

See, so ez :)
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I've said several times I'm a Gentile.


All of them. <smile> They all preached God's Word, after all...


None needed. I could, but I will not answer them the way you want me to... Sam I am. I would not do it in a house, or with a mouse. I would not do it in a box or with a fox. I would not do it, Sam I am... Because to do so would be... yeah, way, way to simple, and wrong-headed.


Ah yeah, so nothing Peter, or John, or James, or any of the others had or has any relevance to you. Yeah, okay, I mean you're welcome to your own simple thoughts, for sure. You do you, man. <smile>


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Good onya Gentile, now what are the Gospel verses that your Christ selected Apostle wrote that teaches how you are saved ?

Just the verses P, can you do that ?
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Good onya Gentile...
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, now what are the Gospel verses that your Christ selected Apostle wrote that teaches how you are saved ? Just the verses P, can you do that ?
Well now this is a little different subject. Yes I can, of course, but I'll just say the ones exactly like the verses where John, Peter, and James say the same thing, but you choose to ignore because they are somehow not relevant to you for some reason.

Go away, dude. Grace and peace to you.
 

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Well now this is a little different subject. Yes I can, of course, but I'll just say the ones exactly like the verses where John, Peter, and James say the same thing, but you choose to ignore because they are somehow not relevant to you for some reason.

Go away, dude. Grace and peace to you.
Very good DUDE <smile> <giggle> <roll on floor laughing>
 

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Well now this is a little different subject. Yes I can, of course, but I'll just say the ones exactly like the verses where John, Peter, and James say the same thing, but you choose to ignore because they are somehow not relevant to you for some reason.

Go away, dude. Grace and peace to you.
like the verses where John, Peter, and James say the same thing
List the saving Gospel verses that the 12 teach that are the EXACT same that Paul teaches - Gal 1:11-12, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13
I'm looking forward to it <smile> <giggle>
 

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All of them. <smile> They all preached God's Word, after all...

He might be one of those guys that say we are to ignore everyone but Paul.
Some apparently have made Paul in to an idol like the catholics made mary into an idol.

I wonder if they pray to Paul too asking him to put in a good word for them with the Lord :Ohz
 

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He might be one of those guys that say we are to ignore everyone but Paul.
Some apparently have made Paul in to an idol like the catholics made mary into an idol.

I wonder if they pray to Paul too asking him to put in a good word for them with the Lord :Ohz
Gal 2:7-9
Who are you ?
Who is the apostle to teach you ?
 

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John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is NOT condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 

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John 3:18
18 He that believeth on him is NOT condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
This is not speaking of the judgment event, per se, Earburner, but specifically condemnation... and pointing to what the result will be in the final judgment for the one who does not come to believe in the name of Jesus... and also says nothing about whether believers will be judged in the final Judgment when Christ executes it at the end of this age, after His return. All will be judged according to what they have done. For our part as believers, we know now that we are no longer under this condemnation (Romans 8:1), and in the final Judgment, we will... pass... <smile> ...as we see in Matthew 25:31-40, but it will not really be on our own merit but Christ's, because we are in Christ Jesus.

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This is not speaking of the judgment event, per se, Earburner, but specifically condemnation... and pointing to what the result will be in the final judgment for the one who does not come to believe in the name of Jesus... and also says nothing about whether believers will be judged in the final Judgment when Christ executes it at the end of this age, after His return. All will be judged according to what they have done. For our part as believers, we know now that we are no longer under this condemnation (Romans 8:1), and in the final Judgment, we will... pass... <smile> ...as we see in Matthew 25:31-40, but it will not really be on our own merit but Christ's, because we are in Christ Jesus.

Grace and peace to you.
Since ALL are condemned unto eternal death
ALREADY (John 3:18), it stands to reason that there is only ONE judgment to deliver us unto Eternal Life, and that is through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Therefore, if you have ALREADY appeared before the judgment seat of Christ (2 Cor. 5:10), for the Gift of God's deliverance of yourself from eternal death, for what other need is there of any further judgment? Personally, I cannot think of any REWARD that is greater than or is equal to that of the Gift of Eternal Life.
 
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Since ALL are condemned unto eternal death
ALREADY (John 3:18)...
We all are, in our natural state, before we are born again of the Spirit. This is the result of Adam's fall in Genesis 3. And this is a judgment placed on all creation (Romans 5:12), as opposed to a blessing, but one we are freed from when we are born again. From that point on there is no more condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1), and we are blessed to share in the first resurrection (Revelation 20:5). The final Judgement will take place when Christ returns, and all will be judged according to what they have done (Romans 2:6-8):

"He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury."

it stands to reason that there is only ONE judgment to deliver us unto Eternal Life, and that is through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
No, that's a blessing, in this life... God's grace, in which He has declared us righteous in Christ, imputed Christ's righteousness to us, by His grace. And this ensures that we will stand in the final Judgment, when Jesus returns at the end of the age. On Jesus's right, as opposed to His left, in His graphic portrayal of the final Judgment in Matthew 25:31-46. It will happen...

Therefore, if you have ALREADY appeared before the judgment seat of Christ (2 Cor. 5:10)
Let's back up just a bit, Earburner. Here's that passage in 1 Corinthians 5... verses through 10, from the English Standard version. Paul writes:

So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

How do you even possibly read that bolded part as past tense, as Paul even suggesting that's something that's already happened for us? He neither said nor intimated any such thing... neither here, nor in Romans 2:5-8 (cited above), nor anywhere... nor anyone... else. Precisely the opposite. Maybe you think he was wrong...? <smile>

for the Gift of God's deliverance of yourself from eternal death, for what other need is there of any further judgment?
There's been no judgment as yet.

Personally, I cannot think of any REWARD that is greater than or is equal to that of the Gift of Eternal Life.
Absolutely. We have the guarantee of it now. And we will have it in full later, in the age to come, eternity. But we will all be judged according to what we have done. Those in "the congregation of the righteous" (Psalm 1), those on Jesus's right, the sheep (Matthew 25:33a) will stand in the Judgment (Psalm 1). Those on His left, the goats (Matthew 25:33:b) "will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous..." (Psalm 1), and as a result of the final Judgment will... depart... will go away into eternal punishment (Matthew 25:46)... <shudder>

Grace and peace to you.
 

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We all are, in our natural state, before we are born again of the Spirit. This is the result of Adam's fall in Genesis 3. And this is a judgment placed on all creation (Romans 5:12), as opposed to a blessing, but one we are freed from when we are born again. From that point on there is no more condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:1), and we are blessed to share in the first resurrection (Revelation 20:5). The final Judgement will take place when Christ returns, and all will be judged according to what they have done (Romans 2:6-8):

"He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury."


No, that's a blessing, in this life... God's grace, in which He has declared us righteous in Christ, imputed Christ's righteousness to us, by His grace. And this ensures that we will stand in the final Judgment, when Jesus returns at the end of the age. On Jesus's right, as opposed to His left, in His graphic portrayal of the final Judgment in Matthew 25:31-46. It will happen...


Let's back up just a bit, Earburner. Here's that passage in 1 Corinthians 5... verses through 10, from the English Standard version. Paul writes:

So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.

How do you even possibly read that bolded part as past tense, as Paul even suggesting that's something that's already happened for us? He neither said nor intimated any such thing... neither here, nor in Romans 2:5-8 (cited above), nor anywhere... nor anyone... else. Precisely the opposite. Maybe you think he was wrong...? <smile>


There's been no judgment as yet.


Absolutely. We have the guarantee of it now. And we will have it in full later, in the age to come, eternity. But we will all be judged according to what we have done. Those in "the congregation of the righteous" (Psalm 1), those on Jesus's right, the sheep (Matthew 25:33a) will stand in the Judgment (Psalm 1). Those on His left, the goats (Matthew 25:33:b) "will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous..." (Psalm 1), and as a result of the final Judgment will... depart... will go away into eternal punishment (Matthew 25:46)... <shudder>

Grace and peace to you.
No. From the Amillennial point of view, there has been a judgment already. We who are Born again, are already participants/recipients of the Gift of Eternal Life, aka the first resurrection, who is Jesus. However, we are still in waiting to be made immortal upon Jesus' return. 1John 5:11-13.

Please notice the simplicity of that truth in the scripture you posted. There are only TWO "works" which shall deliver only TWO "rewards".
"He will render to each one according to his works:
A. to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, He will give eternal life;
B. but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury."
 
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