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1: They claimed god is AGAINST MAN STUDYING THE STARS AND MOVING BEYOND OUR PLANET'S ATMOSPHERE. Yet, these very people use mobile phones and watch television, which are products of space exploration.2: The wise men who found the birth place of Jesus Christ according to the bible were stars watchers. Their knowledge of the stars was use by GOD to help them pinpoint the exactly location of CHRIST. They were even refer to as WISE MEN. Did GOD forget what he hated?3: If God is eternally against man venturing into the heavens, why is he ok with the USA, RUSSIA, CHINA, JAPAN and other putting their satellites and men into space now? Has GOD himself been overwhelmed by the advances of men? GOD FORBID! LIKE ANY CREATOR, GOD hopes for the best for his creation! Most of our pastors lie to the people because the people themselves are short-sighted, ignorant and shallow minded.4: I had a friend who shout each time he prays to God. Whenever I ask him why he has to shout, he tells me he is filled with the holy-spirit. Then I asked him, "who was more filled with the holy spirit than JESUS CHRIST himself?" Never was it recorded that Jesus shouted in the open when praying a personal prayer to GOD. WHY? He understands the nature of GOD. He understands how advance in knowledge GOD IS. My friend never shouts when talking to his girlfriend on the phone even when she is miles away from him. Why? he understands the power of the mobile phone and believes in the power of satellites, the very thing he is against.5: They first commandment God gave to man was "SUBDUE THE EARTH AND ALL THAT IS IN IT". I am sure that includes uncertainty and randomness too. If I won the lottery people will look at me as if i came from hell. Yes the lottery is a difficult system to beat on average but that does not make it evil or unbeatable. Furthermore, it was designed by man and so is man-made. If GOD himself told me there is something called CHANCE, they I will bow down to chance. But once I am sure that, to every problem there is a solution, CHANCE is beatable on average. The same people against playing the lottery invest in stocks, forex-markets and options. There is no certainty in these markets yet they feel ok with these. Yes it is true that the odds mike not be exactly the same. However, if you have ever invested in currencies you will agreed with me. The face of randomness is the same. WHAT THEY MUST KNOW IS THAT EVERY ONE GAMBLES IN LIFE. IF YOU TELL ME NO ONE GAMBLES, I WILL SAY WE ARE GODS THEN. THERE WILL BE NO NEED SEEKING ASSISTANCE FROM ABOVE IF THE FUTURE IS CERTAIN.6: Most people look down upon absolute rulers today as evil. Yes it is true that most of these rulers are affected by POWER SICKNESS. But these same people see nothing wrong with the rule of SOLOMON, DAVID, SAMSON, ETC. These were rulers for life. Our pastors always refer to them in their preaching as good and even go to the extend of mentioning the extend of their rule. Today, these same pastors are calling Mugabe names. look at Queen Elizabeth, is she not a dictator. If she really believes in democracy, while wouldn't she step down and let others take her throne. Finally, the kingdom of GOD has only one one ruler, and that Is GOD himself. Democracy is not the signature of GOD'S rule.TO BE CONTINUED......
 
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Using the Stars for Divination and Fortune telling is an abomination. I believe it's ok to use the Stars and it's constellations. Job 9:9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.God was talking about the Stars. Daniel himself looked upon the stars. It's when people use them for divination, satanic or religious rituals, and worship themselves. Fortune etc. Things or acts that are an abomination to the Lord.
4: I had a friend who shout each time he prays to God. Whenever I ask him why he has to shout, he tells me he is filled with the holy-spirit. Then I asked him, "who was more filled with the holy spirit than JESUS CHRIST himself?" Never was it recorded that Jesus shouted in the open when praying a personal prayer to GOD. WHY? He understands the nature of GOD. He understands how advance in knowledge GOD IS. My friend never shouts when talking to his girlfriend on the phone even when she is miles away from him. Why? he understands the power of the mobile phone and believes in the power of satellites, the very thing he is against.
Acts 8:39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.What is this Rejoicing? What makes you think he didn't shout?
5: They first commandment God gave to man was "SUBDUE THE EARTH AND ALL THAT IS IN IT". I am sure that includes uncertainty and randomness too. If I won the lottery people will look at me as if i came from hell. Yes the lottery is a difficult system to beat on average but that does not make it evil or unbeatable. Furthermore, it was designed by man and so is man-made. If GOD himself told me there is something called CHANCE, they I will bow down to chance. But once I am sure that, to every problem there is a solution, CHANCE is beatable on average. The same people against playing the lottery invest in stocks, forex-markets and options. There is no certainty in these markets yet they feel ok with these. Yes it is true that the odds mike not be exactly the same. However, if you have ever invested in currencies you will agreed with me. The face of randomness is the same. WHAT THEY MUST KNOW IS THAT EVERY ONE GAMBLES IN LIFE. IF YOU TELL ME NO ONE GAMBLES, I WILL SAY WE ARE GODS THEN. THERE WILL BE NO NEED SEEKING ASSISTANCE FROM ABOVE IF THE FUTURE IS CERTAIN.
that's why don't partake of what the World Does1st John 2:15 "Love not the world, neither the things of the world. If ANY man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him"
6: Most people look down upon absolute rulers today as evil. Yes it is true that most of these rulers are affected by POWER SICKNESS. But these same people see nothing wrong with the rule of SOLOMON, DAVID, SAMSON, ETC. These were rulers for life. Our pastors always refer to them in their preaching as good and even go to the extend of mentioning the extend of their rule. Today, these same pastors are calling Mugabe names. look at Queen Elizabeth, is she not a dictator. If she really believes in democracy, while wouldn't she step down and let others take her throne. Finally, the kingdom of GOD has only one one ruler, and that Is GOD himself. Democracy is not the signature of GOD'S rule.
I agree, but DON'T GENERALIZE, on whose behalf are you speaking on?!
 

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you know why would god be agaisnt studying the star and outside the earth who is to say god didnt created other beings out there i mean the universe is a BIG BIG place
 

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Unothodox has this right we are told the heavens are for signs and the Bible is written in the stars. We are not as Unorthodox said to do horoscopes and fortune telling ect.
 

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Using the Stars for Divination and Fortune telling is an abomination. I believe it's ok to use the Stars and it's constellations. Job 9:9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.God was talking about the Stars. Daniel himself looked upon the stars. It's when people use them for divination, satanic or religious rituals, and worship themselves. Fortune etc. Things or acts that are an abomination to the Lord. Acts 8:39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.What is this Rejoicing? What makes you think he didn't shout?that's why don't partake of what the World Does1st John 2:15 "Love not the world, neither the things of the world. If ANY man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him"I agree, but DON'T GENERALIZE, on whose behalf are you speaking on?!
:cool: Rejoicing is different from praying to the lord or seeking private help from God. Rejoicing does not mean the person was necessarily shouting and making noise, he could have done that spiritually. More mature persons don't shout out their communication(s) with God. For even Christ said worship God is spirit. Go to a quite place and share your thoughts with God. You can even whisper your thought to him and he will hear.
 
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So I guess King David Dancing like a maniac isn't rejoicing in Spirit? Who are you to determine what is in spirit or what not? Worry about yourself then how people worship or pray to God.
 

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So I guess King David Dancing like a maniac isn't rejoicing in Spirit? Who are you to determine what is in spirit or what not? Worry about yourself then how people worship or pray to God.
worry about myself is not Christian-like. Are you really an experienced evangelist? No man is an island to himself. When more people get to understand the true nature of the almighty, their form of worship will fundamentally change. :naughty::naughty::naughty:
 
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This is what I meant when I said worry about yourself firstMatthew 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?Who are you to constitute True Worship?! SO DAVID DANCING LIKE A MANIAC WAS A WRONG FORM OF WORSHIP?! PSALM 47:1,61.O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.6.Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises.Don't waste your time telling a person how to worship, does it take away from their Salvation from Believing Yeshua HaMashiach?! Jesus Christ?
 

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This is what I meant when I said worry about yourself firstMatthew 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?Who are you to constitute True Worship?! SO DAVID DANCING LIKE A MANIAC WAS A WRONG FORM OF WORSHIP?! PSALM 47:1,61.O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.6.Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises.Don't waste your time telling a person how to worship, does it take away from their Salvation from Believing Yeshua HaMashiach?! Jesus Christ?
Hello unorthodox, probably, you got me wrong! I am not trying to define what true worship is. Of course it is not wrong when a group of people gather together and decide to sing praises to the lord. That is a different matter. I am talking about a personal prayer. A one-to-one talk with GOD. You know in my home country Ghana, it is the norm to find people pray at night shouting on top of their voice sometimes when others are asleep. I personally think there is no need for that. It looks like such persons are only trying to present themselves as highly religious.JUST TO COMPLETE THISIsaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter into your rooms And close your doors behind you; Hide for a little while Until indignation runs its course.Matthew 6:4 so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.Matthew 6:18 so that your fasting will not be noticed by men, but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.Matthew 26:36 Then Jesus came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and said to His disciples, "Sit here while I go over there and pray."People's New Testament6:6 When thou prayest, enter into thy closet. Private devotions are meant, nor is this designed to prohibit prayers in public assemblies. The Lord himself both prayed in the mountain alone (Mt 14:23), in the night alone (Lu 6:12), and in public in the presence of his disciples. We have records of many prayers offered by the apostles in public assemblies. Thy closet may mean any secret place. Peter's closet was on the house-top; the Savior's on a mountain alone.6:6 Enter into thy closet - That is, do it with as much secrecy as thou canst.6. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet-a place of retirement.and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly-Of course, it is not the simple publicity of prayer which is here condemned. It may be offered in any circumstances, however open, if not prompted by the spirit of ostentation, but dictated by the great ends of prayer itself. It is the retiring character of true prayer which is here taught.Supplementary Directions and Model Prayer (Mt 6:7-15).6:5-8 It is taken for granted that all who are disciples of Christ pray. You may as soon find a living man that does not breathe, as a living Christian that does not pray. If prayerless, then graceless. The Scribes and Pharisees were guilty of two great faults in prayer, vain-glory and vain repetitions. Verily they have their reward; if in so great a matter as is between us and God, when we are at prayer, we can look to so poor a thing as the praise of men, it is just that it should be all our reward. Yet there is not a secret, sudden breathing after God, but he observes it. It is called a reward, but it is of grace, not of debt; what merit can there be in begging? If he does not give his people what they ask, it is because he knows they do not need it, and that it is not for their good. So far is God from being wrought upon by the length or words of our prayers, that the most powerful intercessions are those which are made with groanings that cannot be uttered. Let us well study what is shown of the frame of mind in which our prayers should be offered, and learn daily from Christ how to pray.
 

bonzion

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Ok I see what you mean, But what do you have to say with the other issues I have addressed brother?
Thank God there is peace in the house. I will react to your other comments soon.
 

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Bonzion, If you like quiet prayers, it's excellent. God hears them all, even our thoughts. I like quiet possibly more than shouting. Main thing for me is to be in God's presense, I'm a born again Christian, go to pentacostal church. We praise the Lord with songs and praising in tongues. Some people are louder than others, it's individual, but you are not forced to be something than you are not. For me if people want to shout, I let them shout, not at night time when I'd like to sleep though. We are all different,Thank God. This life would be really boring if we were all the same. I just want to encourage you to be you and praise God and pray as you feel is comfortable for you. God is not like us humans, He does not judge as people might. But be also tolerant to other kind of personalities youself and you don;t need to let other people control your style of praising and praying. It's all good, we are just different. We shout in football games etc. why not to God. He is so much more greater. But just be yourself!God bless and He loves you as much as anybody else.Thunder1:)