Reader..
Often you find people on forums who have been badly taught, regarding the NT...
How do you spot them??
Just.. .like.....this.....
= To that person.. they believe that every verse in the bible is aimed right at them.
They do not understand that many verses are not pointed at the born again = as doctrine.
So, lets get you out of any type of wrong understanding regarding sin, forgiveness, and confession..., and also lets get you some spiritual KEYS regarding HOW to understand the NT.
Now...One of the easiest way to get this clarified regarding your bible study, is to find out if the VERSE was given to the JEWS, before Jesus was Crucified.
Just look for that, and that will show you many verses that are not FOR the Body of Christ, as DOCTRINE.
So, what we do is use the Cross to filter verses so that we can see if the verse is meant for the JEW before Jesus was Crucified, vs.. the Body of Christ who is now under a : = new Covenant that was created BY the Cross of Christ as the Blood Atonement.
So, we the Born again....always study verses IN LIGHT OF THE CROSS. and that will help us to not wrongly point a verse at ourselves as doctrine, that was only given to the House of Israel...before Christ was crucified.
And some verses in the NT are prophetic, and are talking about what is going to take place in the Trib and Grt Trib.
Some of later Matthew is all about that, and many Christians who are really bad bible students, try to point those verses at believers who are where we are now...= "in the TIME....of the GENTILES".
These people can't discern the bible, and so they dont understand that Christianity is Spiritual and the word of God is to be "rightly Divided" and "spiritually discerned".
So, a person who is in a cult, or has been taught all their Theology by a Heretic... .... these people are never taught what i just showed you.
And a new believer has the same issue, as They only know that "Jesus saved me"..
They have no "theology" yet, and that is the PRIME TIME For The Devil to grab them with Catholicism and Calvinism and Mormonism and JW, and all the other cults, as this untrained in the Doctrine of Paul baby Christian, has no way to KNOW who is lying, and who is sent by the Devil to them.
They think.. "Oh that person sounds like they know all about the bible", .. and this person only knows all about John Calvinsim, or the cutl of mary, and the new believer has no idea about that.. as they dont know any BIBLE YET.. So, they are HOOKED, and faith ruined.
So, to talk a bit now about why other people get so mislead regarding the Bible... And these are those who read it a lot, but are not church goers....
ts because they run in there, and find some verse that is aimed at OT Jews, or unbelievers, and they try to do it. They believe the verse is for them....And then the devil shows them more verses that just keep tying them into a confused theological mess.
Listen Reader.. the devil does not just temp you to enjoy some carnal behavior.
The Devil is a Theologian who will lead you into a CULT MIND....using the bible, as you read it.
See, the battlefield for your Christianity, is in your mind, and so that is where the Devil shows you things to confuse you, using the bible and other people who are deceived and they will deceive you.
That's the Devil's work, among others.
This is why God sends Teachers... Its so that they can keep you away from HERESY that will destroy your faith and your discipleship.
So, What a situation a believer have become who is just all tied up with bad theology...., that someone has to try to UNTIE< and that is always a difficult job because the person has PRIDE about their confusion..... and they want to FIGHT YOU, and DENY YOU, and REFUSE to listen.
Not that many can be recovered once they are "subverted within themselves"... And that means when their deception has become so locked down.. to the point that even simple truth about the Cross, is to them LIES LIES LIES, then most are unreachable.
They will tell you crazy theology that is just remarkably backwards, such as.. ."you have to be born again, before you can believe in Jesus".
See that? They can be that deceived, theologically....,and once they become that "subverted within themselves",.. .. they then hear TRUTH as LIES., and that is basically "too far gone".
This person is a : Luke 11:35.. and what you do with them, is Titus 3:10.
So the only hope for that one, is that they are born again, as that can't changed, yet, they can't be helped. (Theologically).
That's your Hyper Calvinist or Most Catholics and JW's., just to name a few.
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So, here is what we know,...
We know that you can't have sin and be "one with God" "in Christ".
All sin has to be resolved before you can exist in the KOG, as Born Again, as "In Christ and One with God".
You must have .. all of it forgiven....... to be joined to God, or otherwise He would be joining your sin.
That's not going to happen.. So, once you are ETERNALLY Forgiven, then God gives you the new birth, and you become a "new Creation IN CHRIST".... "Made Righteous"... . Forever.
And if the person can't understand that all their sin was dealt with by Christ who also took the LAW off of us so that the Law can't define us as a sinner or our carnality as sin, any more, ever again, then you find them chasing a couple of verses that they believe they have to obey to keep getting their sin re-forgiven... and that is why you find these "chronic confessors" who believe that Christianity is "sin, confess, repeat".
These people believe that "Christianity is sin, confess, and repeat"...
On this forum the worst 2 who teach that nonsense, are NetChaplin and Ronald Nolette.. .as that is their theology... but they are not the only two.. They are just the LOUDEST to SHOUT IT.
And they'll run to Romans 7, where Paul is beginning to teach about "that which i hate i do, and that which i want to do, i cant do"... and they dont read the rest of His teaching that is not just in that Chapter.... and if they did, or if their pastor or pope had read it, then they would not have been taught that Paul is teaching that you stay there as a : Hebrews 6:1.
See, Paul was teaching that when you try to be "right with God" by "performance" and by "lawkeeping" and you are born again, then you find a WAR happens inside you, in your emotions and your mind, and you become confused and unsettled, and that is the Spirit and the old man of the Flesh, in a battle inside you, and you can't make it stop...
So, that is why Paul teaches all about "not being under the law" and "being made free from sin, .. and "The old man is crucified with Christ"... as the rest of His teaching that these heretics never read and that their heretic POPE or Pastor, never understood.
The end of Paul teaching on this is....>"Christ always gives me the VICTORY".. over the flesh, the world, and the devil.
That is the END of the teaching that began as.. "that which i want to do, i can't do"...
These Heretics and their Heretic Pastors and Pope's never read the rest of Paul's Doctrine.. His Teaching..
What does that lead to if you are one of those ??? It leads to people who believe that they still have their sin, so they try to get rid of it...... over and over., and that becomes their entire lifetime.. That is all they can do.. That is their "Christianity".. and so they believe that is YOURS ALSO.
And they will teach you that nonsense on THIS FORUM and on every other one. And their church-cult teaches this same JUNK Theology.
Whereas..... a born again believer, who has been taught the very basics of REDEMPTION, and what it means to be "FORGIVEN".....
= They have actually read these 2 verses below and understand them, as does their Pastor and Teacher.
1.) "God hath Made JESUS....to be SIN.....for us"....
And...
2.) "Jesus is the ONE TIME...... ETERNAL Sacrifice for SIN"...
So, there goes your sin .... READER....if you are born again.
Jesus has become it ALL, as THE """one time ETERNAL sacrifice"" for it = ALL.
All gone.
Jesus has your sin, and the born again have been "made righteous".. They have become "THE righteousness of God, in Christ", forever.
Now the heretic and their Pastor will read those verses...... and because they are badly taught and because they dont understand the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, will try to twist the verses like this......
= "Well, only the sin you committed up until the day you were saved are forgiven". .. So, now you have to confess all the new ones"".
See that?
That is one of the most repeated heresies you'll run into on a Forum .
That is someone who does not understand the word """ETERNAL....."
So when they read...>"Jesus is the ONE TIME....ETERNAL..= Sacrifice for our sin">.. they then say...>>""""ummm, not quite,.. let me show you a verse over there that is talking to unbelievers about confessing sin".... is what they will do to try to deny that Jesus is our ONE TIME...= ETERNAL Sin Bearer..
And why is Jesus our ETERNAL SIN BEARER...??? ITS because= ""GOD HATH MADE Jesus to be SIN... for us"""".
Jesus took our lifetime of sin upon Himself and took it to the Grave, and Rose again from the Dead without it.
He does not have it now, and neither do the BORN AGAIN who are... "made free from sin"... who are a "new creation in Christ", who have become = "THE righteousness of GOD.... In Christ".
See, the born again are ""One with God".. "IN Christ'... "seated in Heavenly places",.. And there is no sin found there.
The born again are become..
"AS JESUS IS..... so are the born again, in THIS WORLD">..... and there is no sin found there.
Often you find people on forums who have been badly taught, regarding the NT...
How do you spot them??
Just.. .like.....this.....
= To that person.. they believe that every verse in the bible is aimed right at them.
They do not understand that many verses are not pointed at the born again = as doctrine.
So, lets get you out of any type of wrong understanding regarding sin, forgiveness, and confession..., and also lets get you some spiritual KEYS regarding HOW to understand the NT.
Now...One of the easiest way to get this clarified regarding your bible study, is to find out if the VERSE was given to the JEWS, before Jesus was Crucified.
Just look for that, and that will show you many verses that are not FOR the Body of Christ, as DOCTRINE.
So, what we do is use the Cross to filter verses so that we can see if the verse is meant for the JEW before Jesus was Crucified, vs.. the Body of Christ who is now under a : = new Covenant that was created BY the Cross of Christ as the Blood Atonement.
So, we the Born again....always study verses IN LIGHT OF THE CROSS. and that will help us to not wrongly point a verse at ourselves as doctrine, that was only given to the House of Israel...before Christ was crucified.
And some verses in the NT are prophetic, and are talking about what is going to take place in the Trib and Grt Trib.
Some of later Matthew is all about that, and many Christians who are really bad bible students, try to point those verses at believers who are where we are now...= "in the TIME....of the GENTILES".
These people can't discern the bible, and so they dont understand that Christianity is Spiritual and the word of God is to be "rightly Divided" and "spiritually discerned".
So, a person who is in a cult, or has been taught all their Theology by a Heretic... .... these people are never taught what i just showed you.
And a new believer has the same issue, as They only know that "Jesus saved me"..
They have no "theology" yet, and that is the PRIME TIME For The Devil to grab them with Catholicism and Calvinism and Mormonism and JW, and all the other cults, as this untrained in the Doctrine of Paul baby Christian, has no way to KNOW who is lying, and who is sent by the Devil to them.
They think.. "Oh that person sounds like they know all about the bible", .. and this person only knows all about John Calvinsim, or the cutl of mary, and the new believer has no idea about that.. as they dont know any BIBLE YET.. So, they are HOOKED, and faith ruined.
So, to talk a bit now about why other people get so mislead regarding the Bible... And these are those who read it a lot, but are not church goers....
ts because they run in there, and find some verse that is aimed at OT Jews, or unbelievers, and they try to do it. They believe the verse is for them....And then the devil shows them more verses that just keep tying them into a confused theological mess.
Listen Reader.. the devil does not just temp you to enjoy some carnal behavior.
The Devil is a Theologian who will lead you into a CULT MIND....using the bible, as you read it.
See, the battlefield for your Christianity, is in your mind, and so that is where the Devil shows you things to confuse you, using the bible and other people who are deceived and they will deceive you.
That's the Devil's work, among others.
This is why God sends Teachers... Its so that they can keep you away from HERESY that will destroy your faith and your discipleship.
So, What a situation a believer have become who is just all tied up with bad theology...., that someone has to try to UNTIE< and that is always a difficult job because the person has PRIDE about their confusion..... and they want to FIGHT YOU, and DENY YOU, and REFUSE to listen.
Not that many can be recovered once they are "subverted within themselves"... And that means when their deception has become so locked down.. to the point that even simple truth about the Cross, is to them LIES LIES LIES, then most are unreachable.
They will tell you crazy theology that is just remarkably backwards, such as.. ."you have to be born again, before you can believe in Jesus".
See that? They can be that deceived, theologically....,and once they become that "subverted within themselves",.. .. they then hear TRUTH as LIES., and that is basically "too far gone".
This person is a : Luke 11:35.. and what you do with them, is Titus 3:10.
So the only hope for that one, is that they are born again, as that can't changed, yet, they can't be helped. (Theologically).
That's your Hyper Calvinist or Most Catholics and JW's., just to name a few.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So, here is what we know,...
We know that you can't have sin and be "one with God" "in Christ".
All sin has to be resolved before you can exist in the KOG, as Born Again, as "In Christ and One with God".
You must have .. all of it forgiven....... to be joined to God, or otherwise He would be joining your sin.
That's not going to happen.. So, once you are ETERNALLY Forgiven, then God gives you the new birth, and you become a "new Creation IN CHRIST".... "Made Righteous"... . Forever.
And if the person can't understand that all their sin was dealt with by Christ who also took the LAW off of us so that the Law can't define us as a sinner or our carnality as sin, any more, ever again, then you find them chasing a couple of verses that they believe they have to obey to keep getting their sin re-forgiven... and that is why you find these "chronic confessors" who believe that Christianity is "sin, confess, repeat".
These people believe that "Christianity is sin, confess, and repeat"...
On this forum the worst 2 who teach that nonsense, are NetChaplin and Ronald Nolette.. .as that is their theology... but they are not the only two.. They are just the LOUDEST to SHOUT IT.
And they'll run to Romans 7, where Paul is beginning to teach about "that which i hate i do, and that which i want to do, i cant do"... and they dont read the rest of His teaching that is not just in that Chapter.... and if they did, or if their pastor or pope had read it, then they would not have been taught that Paul is teaching that you stay there as a : Hebrews 6:1.
See, Paul was teaching that when you try to be "right with God" by "performance" and by "lawkeeping" and you are born again, then you find a WAR happens inside you, in your emotions and your mind, and you become confused and unsettled, and that is the Spirit and the old man of the Flesh, in a battle inside you, and you can't make it stop...
So, that is why Paul teaches all about "not being under the law" and "being made free from sin, .. and "The old man is crucified with Christ"... as the rest of His teaching that these heretics never read and that their heretic POPE or Pastor, never understood.
The end of Paul teaching on this is....>"Christ always gives me the VICTORY".. over the flesh, the world, and the devil.
That is the END of the teaching that began as.. "that which i want to do, i can't do"...
These Heretics and their Heretic Pastors and Pope's never read the rest of Paul's Doctrine.. His Teaching..
What does that lead to if you are one of those ??? It leads to people who believe that they still have their sin, so they try to get rid of it...... over and over., and that becomes their entire lifetime.. That is all they can do.. That is their "Christianity".. and so they believe that is YOURS ALSO.
And they will teach you that nonsense on THIS FORUM and on every other one. And their church-cult teaches this same JUNK Theology.
Whereas..... a born again believer, who has been taught the very basics of REDEMPTION, and what it means to be "FORGIVEN".....
= They have actually read these 2 verses below and understand them, as does their Pastor and Teacher.
1.) "God hath Made JESUS....to be SIN.....for us"....
And...
2.) "Jesus is the ONE TIME...... ETERNAL Sacrifice for SIN"...
So, there goes your sin .... READER....if you are born again.
Jesus has become it ALL, as THE """one time ETERNAL sacrifice"" for it = ALL.
All gone.
Jesus has your sin, and the born again have been "made righteous".. They have become "THE righteousness of God, in Christ", forever.
Now the heretic and their Pastor will read those verses...... and because they are badly taught and because they dont understand the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, will try to twist the verses like this......
= "Well, only the sin you committed up until the day you were saved are forgiven". .. So, now you have to confess all the new ones"".
See that?
That is one of the most repeated heresies you'll run into on a Forum .
That is someone who does not understand the word """ETERNAL....."
So when they read...>"Jesus is the ONE TIME....ETERNAL..= Sacrifice for our sin">.. they then say...>>""""ummm, not quite,.. let me show you a verse over there that is talking to unbelievers about confessing sin".... is what they will do to try to deny that Jesus is our ONE TIME...= ETERNAL Sin Bearer..
And why is Jesus our ETERNAL SIN BEARER...??? ITS because= ""GOD HATH MADE Jesus to be SIN... for us"""".
Jesus took our lifetime of sin upon Himself and took it to the Grave, and Rose again from the Dead without it.
He does not have it now, and neither do the BORN AGAIN who are... "made free from sin"... who are a "new creation in Christ", who have become = "THE righteousness of GOD.... In Christ".
See, the born again are ""One with God".. "IN Christ'... "seated in Heavenly places",.. And there is no sin found there.
The born again are become..
"AS JESUS IS..... so are the born again, in THIS WORLD">..... and there is no sin found there.
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