News from the Holy Land

quietthinker · May 24, 2020

Timtofly said:
The Second Coming is a set date, just like the first coming. It is the return of Christ prior to the Second Coming that is not known. The Rapture does not happen after the Second Coming. In fact the Rapture happens as the first harvest, because the church comes back itself at the Second Coming. It would seem that even the 144K who are not sealed until after the Rapture, themselves will be taken out, and return at the Second Coming. We are not told, because John was told not to put some events into the written part of Revelation. No one can add them back accept John, since He warned that any one else trying would be punished. It is all those false prophets trying to add things into Revelation that are not there, who in the last day, will be punished. They should repent and pray for God's will to be done, instead of the doctrine and added interpretations of fallen humanity.

Now those who delivered the 7 letters to the seven churches knew better, than to try and add their own twist. Folks today seem less troubled by the fact of the warning.

I see this as confused information.

Malihah · May 24, 2020

quietthinker said:
News from the Holy Land..... to believe this land is Holy is an indication of unable to see the reality.

Dude, You can't say that out loud. You'll get branded as the spawn of Hitler or some kind of Jesuit super criminal or even worse....John Hagee will anathema you!

Keraz · May 24, 2020

Malihah said:
Dude, You can't say that out loud. You'll get branded as the spawn of Hitler or some kind of Jesuit super criminal or even worse....John Hagee will anathema you!

As Deuteronomy 11:11-12 says: The Lords eyes are always upon the holy Land.
It is an area that has a special ambience, I have been there and experienced it.
The problem always seems to have been that ungodly people have occupied it. Even the ancient Israelites were not the people God really wanted there and He had to send them into exile for their sins. For sure; the Jews are not the right ones either! Jeremiah 12:14 says they and all the evil neighbors will be uprooted and gone.

The Day will come when the Lord will arise and clear and cleanse His Land. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Hosea 4:1-4, +
After that Day, the new inhabitants of all of the holy Land, will be only the faithful believers; all born again Christians, His sheep and those who trusted in His protection during the terrible Day of His fiery wrath. Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26, +

quietthinker · May 24, 2020

Keraz said:
The Day will come when the Lord will arise and clear and cleanse His Land. Deuteronomy 32:34-43, Hosea 4:1-4, +
After that Day, the new inhabitants of all of the holy Land, will be only the faithful believers; all born again Christians, His sheep and those who trusted in His protection during the terrible Day of His fiery wrath. Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26, +

Yes, that day will be when the whole Earth is recreated....then the whole Earth will be holy. Revelation 21 & 22

bbyrd009 · May 24, 2020

"tomorrow people"

Keraz · May 25, 2020

quietthinker said:
Yes, that day will be when the whole Earth is recreated....then the whole Earth will be holy. Revelation 21 & 22

How can you think that, when Revelation 21:1 plainly states the New heavens and earth comes after the Millennium?

The prophesies about the forthcoming Lords Day of fiery wrath, tell of a total cleansing of the holy Land, Hosea 4:3, Jeremiah 7:34 & 4:26-28, Isaiah 33:8-9, and a devastation of the rest of the world. Jeremiah 25:32, Isaiah 34:2

Remember; the Lord had done this before. Noah's Flood wiped the earth clean then and it regenerated again.

bbyrd009 said:
"tomorrow people"

What about 'tomorrow' is it that you don't like?

quietthinker · May 25, 2020

Keraz said:
How can you think that, when Revelation 21:1 plainly states the New heavens and earth comes after the Millennium?

The prophesies about the forthcoming Lords Day of fiery wrath, tell of a total cleansing of the holy Land, Hosea 4:3, Jeremiah 7:34 & 4:26-28, Isaiah 33:8-9, and a devastation of the rest of the world. Jeremiah 25:32, Isaiah 34:2

Remember; the Lord had done this before. Noah's Flood wiped the earth clean then and it regenerated again.

What about 'tomorrow' is it that you don't like?

Keraz, here is a brief summary of how see the scripture laying it out...... You are right, the new heavens and earth will come after the millennium.

When that long awaited and hoped for event of Jesus returning in the clouds eventuates every eye will see him. The righteous living and dead (resurrected) will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye from mortal to immortal and caught up to meet Jesus in the air.

The hearts of the remainder on Earth will fail them....in fear they will call for the rocks and the mountains to fall on them. They will die, destroyed by the brightness of his coming. They will be dead one thousand years. Satan will be on the devastated earth with his angels and nobody to temp because all life is dead.

The righteous will be in heaven for this thousand years/ millennium. After the thousand years has ended Jesus will return to earth with the righteous. His feet will cleave the Mt of Olives and it will become a great plain. The New Jerusalem will descend from heaven to the place prepared for it.

The wicked dead are raised and Satan will once more have subjects to deceive persuading them it was by his power they have been brought to life. They (the wicked multitudes of all ages from Adam's time to when Jesus returns...a vast unnumbered throng) will attempt a forced overthrow of the New Jerusalem which holds the resurrected righteous (saints). God will send fire down from heaven (this is the lake of fire, the second death) it will destroy every trace of evil, Satan, his angels and all evil doers. The Earth will be purified (cleansed) with these fires that envelope the whole planet. When purification is complete God will recreate the Earth as the book of Revelation describes.

Sin, sinners, every trace of dysfunction and death will be gone forever. The Universe is restored and God is vindicated before all Creation.

Soooo, you are correct, the new heavens and earth will come after the Millennium just as described in the book of Revelation and foretold by the OT Prophets.

bbyrd009 · May 25, 2020

Keraz said:
What about 'tomorrow' is it that you don't like?

oh, mostly that it is antichrist, it is divining, it is not today Keraz. It is the Cult of Sol Invictus.

bbyrd009 · May 25, 2020

quietthinker said:
When that long awaited and hoped for event of Jesus returning in the clouds eventuates every eye will see him.

see but you cannot Quote this "Jesus, Returning," and while i dont know i would say that that is for a very good reason, almost surely bc Jesus is not Apollos (waters)
I will never leave you, nor forsake you

so fwiw i will say that only Yah knows when--maybe today, maybe right now--but just as lighning strikes from east to west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be for you, in whom Christ is revealed

quietthinker said:
The righteous living and dead (resurrected) will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye from mortal to immortal and caught up to meet Jesus in the air.

well, dont fergit about dem clouds eh qt, and There is only One Immortal an all that right. No one, has ever, gone up to heaven, but He Who came down from it right

i mean let's remember that Yah is not required to fulfill our fantasies, and at least maybe show a little humility in our perspectives? I am not interested in condemning anyone for their beliefs, but i would ask you what would it take for you to change your mind where all this flitting around spiritually, tomorrow, is concerned? If Yah Himself came down and tol you that today is the day, would you hear?

Your bargain with death will be annulled, and when the overwhelming scourge passes through, you will be trampled

ok? Now if you dont have any bargains with death, then you got no worries right
The kingdom does not come by observation

bbyrd009 · May 25, 2020

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21 no one will say,aj ‘Look here ! ’ or ‘There ! ’ For you see, the kingdom of God is among you.”
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23 They will say to you,am ‘Look there ! ’ or ‘Look here ! ’ Don’t follow or run after them.an
24 For as the lightning flashes from horizon to horizon and lights up the sky, so the Son of Man will be in His day.ao
25 But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.ap

bbyrd009 · May 25, 2020

18 As He was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon-possessed kept begging Him to be with Him.
19 But He would not let him; instead, He told him, “Go back home to your own people, and report to them how much the Lord ah has done ai for you and how He has had mercy on you.”

Timtofly · May 25, 2020

quietthinker said:
Keraz, here is a brief summary of how see the scripture laying it out...... You are right, the new heavens and earth will come after the millennium.

When that long awaited and hoped for event of Jesus returning in the clouds eventuates every eye will see him. The righteous living and dead (resurrected) will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye from mortal to immortal and caught up to meet Jesus in the air.

The hearts of the remainder on Earth will fail them....in fear they will call for the rocks and the mountains to fall on them. They will die, destroyed by the brightness of his coming. They will be dead one thousand years. Satan will be on the devastated earth with his angels and nobody to temp because all life is dead.

The righteous will be in heaven for this thousand years/ millennium. After the thousand years has ended Jesus will return to earth with the righteous. His feet will cleave the Mt of Olives and it will become a great plain. The New Jerusalem will descend from heaven to the place prepared for it.

The wicked dead are raised and Satan will once more have subjects to deceive persuading them it was by his power they have been brought to life. They (the wicked multitudes of all ages from Adam's time to when Jesus returns...a vast unnumbered throng) will attempt a forced overthrow of the New Jerusalem which holds the resurrected righteous (saints). God will send fire down from heaven (this is the lake of fire) it will destroy every trace of evil, Satan, his angels and all evil doers. The Earth will be purified (cleansed) with these fires that envelope the whole planet. When purification is complete God will recreate the Earth as the book of Revelation describes.

Sin, sinners, every trace of dysfunction and death will be gone forever. The Universe is restored and God is vindicated before all Creation.

Soooo, you are correct, the new heavens and earth will come after the Millennium just as described in the book of Revelation and foretold by the OT Prophets.

Just two small items. The 6th seal is when all see both God on the throne and the Lamb. They will not die. God will not let them die, until all things come to pass. This does take place after the 4th seal. There 1 quarter of over 8 billion humans will die. The 4th seal removes over 2 billion people. Then we have more judgment and harvest during the Trumpets and Thunderings.

The other item is New Jerusalem. It is part of the New heavens and earth. Not this one, and not in the last 1000 years. A lot of OT prophets talk about this 1000 year period and perhaps even a temple and it's destruction. It is hard to "fit" prophecy. We can only witness it as it happens.

Bobby Jo · May 25, 2020

Keraz said:
... the United Nations and the European Union warned Israel not to annex any part of the occupied West Bank. ...

Yeah, and they also warned DIRE CONSEQUENCES if Trump recognized Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel.

Of course this doesn't suggest that nothing will come from Israel's decisions, because Bible Prophecy WILL be fulfilled according to GOD's plan and purpose.

Bobby Jo

Bobby Jo · May 25, 2020

Keraz said:
What most don't seem to realize, is that the Jewish State of Israel will be no more after the Lords Day of fiery wrath. The entire Middle East will be depopulated, cleared and cleansed. Uprooted and gone; as Jeremiah 12:14 tells us.

Isaiah 42:13-15 Long have I restrained Myself, I kept silent and held Myself in check, but now I groan like a woman in labour. I will make a great noise and devastate the earth. I will go forth in fury, as a soldier in the heat of battle, I shall burn the trees and pastures and make the holy Land a desolate wasteland. Joel 1:15-18
...

Please allow me to point out that both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are rebuilt and repopulated.
Bobby Jo

Keraz · May 25, 2020

Bobby Jo said:
Please allow me to point out that both Hiroshima and Nagasaki are rebuilt and repopulated.
Bobby Jo

There will be no war, the Lord will not allow radiation pollution in the holy Land. Ezekiel 7:14
What will happen when Iran goes to send a nuke missile to Israel, is described in Psalms 83, Psalms 7:12-16
The entire Middle East will be depopulated by the Lords Day of wrath by fire from the sun:

Zephaniah 3:8 Wait for Me, says the Lord, wait for the Day when I stand up and accuse mankind. For I shall pour out My wrath upon nations and kingdoms, in My burning anger: the whole earth will be devastated by fire.

Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath is near and coming fast. That Day will be a Day of distress and torment, a Day of devastation amid thick darkness. A Day of thunder and destruction against military fortifications and cities. the Lord will bring terrible distress upon the people, they won’t know which way to turn as they are punished for their sins against Me. Their blood and guts will be spilled out like filth over the ground. Neither their treasure nor their idols will be able to save them on the sudden and shocking Day of the Lord’s fiery anger. All the Land will be burned and devastated. Ezekiel 20:46-48

Zephaniah 2:1-3 Prepare yourselves, you undesirable nation, be humble before you disappear like chaff, before the burning anger of the Lord comes upon you. Seek righteousness; seek humility, all you people in the Land who obey God’s Laws and it may be that you will find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger.

Zephaniah 2:4-7 Gaza will be deserted, Ashkelon left in ruins. At midday all the towns of the Mediterranean coast will be cleared of inhabitants, for the Word of God is against you – land of the Philistines. I shall lay you in ruins, no one will survive. The sea coast will become a sheep grazing area belonging to the survivors of Judah, for their God will turn to them and restore their fortunes. Isaiah 14-1, Ezekiel 36:1-37

Zephaniah 2:8-10 I have noted the insults of Moab and the Ammonites, how they have reviled My people and encroached on their frontiers. For this, I swear, they will become like Sodom and Gomorrah, a place of weeds and salt pans. Those of My people who survive will inherit their land. This is retribution for their pride, because they have insulted God’s people and taken over their Land. Jeremiah 12:14, Amos 2:1-5

Zephaniah 3:11-13 On that Day, Jerusalem, I shall rid you of your proud and arrogant citizens, but I will leave a remnant, a humble people who will trust in Me. The survivors in Israel will be righteous, under My protection. Isaiah 31:5

Zephaniah 3:19-20 When the time comes and I have dealt with your oppressors, then I shall rescue the lost and gather the dispersed and bring you all to your homeland. You will win respect and renown from the other nations when I restore your fortunes before your very eyes, It is I, the Lord, who speaks. Ref: REB. Some verses abridged.

Wait for the Day; the whole earth burned and devastated. The only known way how this could happen, is by a massive Coronal Mass Ejection, a fire judgement mentioned and described over 100 times in Bible prophecy. It will be the event that ‘comes like a thief’, unexpected and shocking. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1

You undesirable nation – the Israelite people: now that is, every born again Christian. It may be that those who live righteously and humbly will ‘find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger.’ 2 Peter 2:9

Philistines and Moab and Ammon – Palestinians and Jordanians. Amos 1:6-8 & 13-14, Ezekiel 21:28-1

leave a remnant in Jerusalem, under My protection – Isaiah 4:3, Romans 9:27

rescue the lost....bring you home – The great gathering of all the faithful Christian peoples, prophesied more than 40 times, to happen soon after this forthcoming, worldwide fire judgement. They will live in the promised Land, under God’s protection and when the Anti Christ comes to Jerusalem, Daniel 11:31-32, Revelation 13:7, they are taken to a place of safety until the Return of Jesus.

Bobby Jo · May 25, 2020

Keraz said:
There will be no war, the Lord will not allow radiation pollution ...

You'd be surprised.

Bobby Jo

Keraz · May 26, 2020

Bobby Jo said:
You'd be surprised.

Bobby Jo

Believe the Bible; everyone will be very surprised and shocked when the Lord sends His fiery wrath.
It will destroy all weapons of war; Hosea 2:18, Jeremiah 25:32, Psalms 76:3, and Jeremiah 49:35-37, the nuke missiles of Iran exploded on the launch pad.

Bobby Jo · May 26, 2020

YOU ...

Keraz said:
...will be very surprised and shocked when ...

The Jews nuke their own territory.

Bobby Jo

Keraz · Jun 5, 2020

A senior PA official said to Israel Hayom, “If Arab states allow annexation of the Jordan Valley and West Bank, it’s nothing less than a knife in the back of the Palestinians.”

Understated threats of violence accompanied this development. Dr. Saeb Erekat, PLO Executive Committee Chair and senior advisor to Abbas, spoke to Radio Kol Falastine last Wednesday, saying, “The following weeks will determine whether the next decades will be peaceful, or if we will have decades of violence and war.”

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