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You can't understand anything you read. The 100 ounces of gold in the analogy is only for those who are under the new covenant and you don't include yourself as part of the new covenant, so you will end up with only the 100 ounces of silver instead.

This is blasphemy against the Word who came in the flesh! You clearly have no understanding of this passage: Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make...

LOL at saying 70 weeks is literal time. If that was the case it would be 490 days instead of 490 years. Many Amills agree with me that the time periods in Revelation are symbolic, so it's not radical at all. Especially when considering that it's in the most highly symbolic book in the entire...

I agree with all of this, but I think you should delete your post 185 where you said this: No Amils, including WPM, are being intellectually dishonest in this thread. The only one who was being intellectually dishonest in this thread admitted as such, to his credit.

That is not what I said. What I'm saying is that Jesus indicated there is some sense that all believers would survive and all unbelievers would be killed in relation to His second coming. How can that be related to what happened in 70 AD when not all unbelievers in Jerusalem were killed? Also...

So, are you part of any denomination who believes like you or not? All of those time periods are symbolic. The judgment will occur in eternity so we will have all the time in the world to take part in the judgment. What about Satan's little season that occurs after the thousand years? How does...

@Davidpt Did you read this post? Do you think WPM is being dishonest with this info or can you acknowledge that Irenaeus did not believe that Satan will be bound when Jesus returns and instead believed he was bound long ago?

Your belief about this matches theirs, so that's why I thought that was the case. And you saying "Peaceful Sabbath" made me think that as well. You are being blatantly dishonest here. He never said that He would come to meet them and then bring them back from where He came. What is the reason...

Right. That is what the following verse means as well. Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. All things that exist today are...

Great information. Thanks. I just wish Premills today could admit that their modern day Premill view does not match what the ECF Chiliasts taught up until Victorinus in AD 270.

God bless you for your honesty. It's very refreshing to see this. Thanks.

LOL. Oh boy, here we go. Can't wait to read the rest of your arrogant nonsense. You are blatantly twisting what He said. He did not say that "He would come back and take us to be where He is". Read what he said carefully. Set your SDA bias aside and read this objectively... John 14:1 Let not...

There are similarities between the 70 AD local event and the future global event related to Jesus's coming at the end of this temporal age, so it's not surprising that Jesus would have occasionally said similar things in relation to each event. Jesus twice referred to past events involving...

It's unfortunate that we have to spend time refuting their ECF Misinformation Campaign instead of just sticking to discussing scripture, but it has to be done so that people understand that the early church pre-270 AD did not believe in what modern day Premillennialists teach.

I have never studied the writings of ECFs very closely before, but now that I'm taking a closer look at them, I agree. That is quite clear. And, like you have been saying, that is what Chiliasts believed up until around 270 AD.

It contradicts you saying "Since Jesus is not currently ruling over the nations today, we understand this reference as a future event." and you said that in relation to the man child being caught up to God and God's throne. Do you see Ephesians 1:19-23 as a future event?

I was simply responding to what marks had said. We get off topic in these threads all the time, so it's nothing new. I forgive you. Just try to read what I actually say without reading things into it. You can see in that post that I made no mention of the thousand years at all.

It's unbelievable! Some of the Premills on this forum are just blatant liars with no conscience at all about their lies! I'm concerned for their eternal souls because habitual liars will end up in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). He said that Irenaeus mentioned the binding of Satan in his...

I never said that it did. Why can't we just agree on this without you trying to ruin everything by bringing up something that I wasn't even talking about? I don't understand you. I was refuting dispensationalism in that post, not Premill.

Is the following passage in your Bible? Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly...