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It does not mean that all without exception will believe, but it infers that any human being can believe if they so choose. The phrase in Eph does not mean that God chose anyone before the foundations of the world. It means those that believe become chosen IN HIM. It does not say He chose...

I don't need to prove or show anything more than I have already. It has been so understood, believed by all Christians since the beginning. No one has changed the doctrine of the Incarnation and the texts of scripture that has supported it. Not what scripture states. Rom 5:12 is quite clear...

None of the above even addresses the atonement of Christ. Respective of the Incarnation it is every single individual and it entails the created universe as well. We are not speaking of spiritual death here. We did not inherit sin from Adam. We inherited a fallen or mortal nature which...

Which has nothing to do with atonement. The atonement was for the purpose for Christ to have union, to have a relationship with man in this life and for eternity. Why would you reject the texts I cited which uses words that show universality. Lets start with the fall of man which required...

Both words can be used and be perfectly biblical. However, the way I am assuming you are meaning it the answer is no. The Church condemned Universalism in the 4th century. I explained what it means somewhere in this thread. But Scripture does teach very clearly the redemption...

Christ's reconciled the world to God by His death and resurrection. That has nothing to do specifically with believers. It had to do with the sin of the world. I John 2:2. His sacrifice atoned for the sin of the world. It makes it possible that Christ, now as High Priest can forgive sin...

Right. Why is it that limited atonement was never even heard about until the 16 century and then only one person developed the view, namely Calvin. No other Protestant denominations outside of reformed or some derivative thereof hold such a view. Hardly the Gospel that the Holy Spirit...

Maybe you could help Brightfame52 in his quest to explain limited atonement. He has not produced a single piece of evidence that states explains or even infers limited atonement. Jesus interceding on a believers behalf has nothing to do with His atonement. His atonement makes it possible for...

Are you purposely disagreeing with scripture, or you did not know these texts existed that deny limited atonement?

First you do not understand the difference between Universal Atonement and Universalism. As to your second point, absolutely correct man determines where he will spend eternity heaven or hell. What was atoned by Christ? He accomplishes it through His Incarnation,, death and resurrection. His...

We don't have a sin nature either. We have a mortal nature. Christ had this same nature, a mortal nature, a nature that could die just like us. That nature came from Mary who also had a mortal nature. Not only wrong, but contradictory as well. You're the one sounding foolish on all points.

Where do you find this in scripture. Isn't any wonder your theology is so incongruous with scripture. If this were actually true, then Christ could not be Incarnate either. He would have taken on what you call a sin nature. You make Him a sinner, yet scripture says He was without sin. Now...

That is the point precisely. Well, that is if you believe He actually became man, assumed our human nature, the very same nature as we, that is a mortal nature. If that is what you believe you cannot hold to a limited atonement. Limited atonement infers that Christ was not Incarnated. Listen...

I can understand your reluctance to actually use the texts and contexts to support your assertions. They won't stand up to scripture correctly understood and has not changed since the beginning. Lots of false teachers have come and gone. They are easy to discern. Since you are reluctant to...

Wow, I think you are the only one that has supported "limited atonement" on this thread. Might be one other. I have shown biblical evidence it is false. I have presented theological arguments that it is false. I have shown historically it is false. I have shown that it was declared a heresy by...

I already cited several texts that denies the view you hold. Yet I see nothing from you.

I see a lot of digression here and nothing to support your concept of OSAS which you call perseverance of the saints. What texts guarantee in this life one has been saved, that is past tense saved by belief.

How can you even use the word "Incarnate" and limited atonement in the same phrase. They are categorically, diametrically opposite of each other. Maybe the question should be, do you know what the word means, what it entails? Part of your error in understanding limited atonement is using...

So you keep saying, however, I'm asking about those that are not mentioned regarding life. In another post you say the non-elect will be resurrected in the last day. Where in scripture does it say that they received life in order to stand in judgement. You make the same claim for Rom 5:12. If...

Heb 2:9 says He tasted death for everyone. It makes it possible for Him to have people believe in Him and have an eternal existence. I John 2:2 says not just for our sins but the sins of the whole world. Well, our sins that Paul references is about the elect, but the rest covers the world...