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You just flat out do not understand what I am saying. I do not think we will ever be on the same page. You REFRAME what I say. Just leave it be. If you say no saved person has the ability in your world to depart from the faith it just must be correct. I really do not have any more time to...

Too bad you did not understand what I said. But honestly your " gotcha style" followed by "much love " is kinda silly. Ahem, love is different than your attitude. What I am saying is that some are walking way too deep into Jesus to ever depart. Jesus takes up habitation in every believer...

Yes beware. Beware of those using portions of the bible that contradict it. Daniel 7 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the...

Yes I am secure. No problem. But I could "defect" (since "walk away" is so troublesome to your logic). Your doctrine has you painted into a humanistic logic corner. Your strange claim is that no born again believer has tge ability to depart from the faith. Your deal is circular. Osas. If...

Never said it. Maybe reply honesty next time Much love in a snarky post?

Anyone can walk away. But no, some, such as myself ,can not. It would not work for me. My walk and relationship is non negotiable. It is man's thinking and notions that believe someone can not depart from the faith. Paul calls it "shipwrecked" Paul committed a BELEVER to Satan for the...

He has taught you that : There is no rapture Satan is bound No marriage supper in heaven No two wives ( Gentile, Jew) ... and Amil "revelations from god" All of the entire Bible is seen through a distorted prism. Thank you Jesus I got away from that doctrine in 1977 Just a treasure of info.

I believe you 100% ( he will never cast out those born again) ....but they can defect. If they can not, then God has robots. I also believe a covenant has 2 parties. If I am unable to walk away it is not a valid covenant. IOW, There are sanctions in every covenant if one party walks away. The...

The debate is circular. The truth is BOTH ARE TRUE. We are both elected and choose Him. It is vividly illustrated in the Jewish wedding . Look at it this way. Billions of people. God visits them through supernatural circumstances. They choose him. Some do not. But he died for every single one.

It is as if you have completely factored out the walk and relationship with Jesus AFTER SALVATION. REALLY??? You have no concept of "covenant" No concept of the bride and groom.???? It is as if you are illustrating a wife with a marriage document holding it up and even wearing it in graphics...

Now factor on romans 9, 10, 11. ..and Paul referring to the Jews as his brethren. Repl Theo is 100% one sided.

Osas is not full gospel. Your error in our walk is telling. Most baptists hear osas every single Sunday from the pulpit. If you do not examine both sides of the debate , you are not an honest student of the Bible. I truly can not believe you do not understand the walk with Christ AFTER...

Everyone saved is saved the same way .....through Jesus

The experts have not convinced you there Is no such thing as a rapture or millineum,and the church is replacing the Jews????? Surely a drunken Sean Connery trumps that bible. Time wasters and game players big time.

This board is filled with keyboard warriors expertly expounding on end times with a piece of the bible

....which is heavens view and how Paul was saved. Paul himself was not saved through any of Paul's revelations. The paulines have no idea what salvation is. That is amazing

Extraordinary moves of God begin with ordinary acts of obedience.

The prophet is the steadying hand of the church. The prophetic ministry is intended to be combined with the other offices like a basket weave. Never designed as a elite entity to recieve accolades of man. The churches pastors are suppose to SEE the gifts on their flock and call them out. " that...

Ok, he shows us those things to powerfully pray for them. We pray. THEN WE TEAR DOWN the work of the enemy. When shown something like that we go to warfare. Sever those tentacles of the devil. People need deliverance.

A prophet is also called a seer. (See-er) They see things. The prophetic gift on an individual. They are told things They see things. Sometimes both. Words of knowledge come.( Revelation on verses, heresy, and mysteries in the bible.) King David invoked his prophetic gift against Goliath. " I...