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  1. Wormwood

    Do you do this?

    Mary, The passage you are citing from Ignatius says: The prince of this world would fain carry me away, and corrupt my disposition towards God. Let none of you, therefore, who are [in Rome] help him; rather be ye on my side, that is, on the side of God. Do not speak of Jesus Christ, and yet...
  2. Wormwood

    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    Well, first, I think you are dismissing a significant verse that explicitly says Jesus is the very hypostasis of God. The word means the very basis, substance or essence of something. How can you say a verse that makes such a claim about Jesus does have radical implications for our...
  3. Wormwood

    Do you do this?

    Personally, I practice it because the early Christians did and Jesus said we should do it to remember him. I do it every week because that is what the early Christians did as well. Communion is near and dear to my heart and is filled with meaning and significance. It reminds me of the...
  4. Wormwood

    Do you do this?

    kepha, It was an accusation made to discredit them, as was the accusation that they were Atheists. Should we affirm that the early Christians really didn't believe Jesus was divine since the Romans wrongly misunderstood them as not believing in God because they wouldn't worship idols? My point...
  5. Wormwood

    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    GP, I apologize for not responding to this. I haven't had much time lately but I will try to address this the best I can from my perspective. “οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν θεόν. πάντα διʼ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο, καὶ χωρὶς αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο οὐδὲ ἕν. ὃ γέγονεν” (John 1:2–3, NA27) This is how the Greek...
  6. Wormwood

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Naomi, Certainly, Romans 11:25 is a key passage in understanding what Paul is saying. Unfortunately, I don't think this is translated well in many Bibles and therefore is a bit misleading. The word in question here is πλήρωμα. Many translations give this word a numerical connotation, (full...
  7. Wormwood

    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    tigger, I guess my point with the "5 lessons" you share is that I think your paradigm is the issue. Its hard to focus on any one lesson because its the entire approach that I find problematic. To me, this is like saying, "Joe never uses an apostrophe in any other place in a possessive way...
  8. Wormwood

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Hey Naomi, Thanks for your response. I understand the importance of being open to different ideas. I certainly believe that God loves the people of national Israel and wants to see them come to Christ. Perhaps bringing the nation together is a means to that end. Yet I don't believe that...
  9. Wormwood

    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    I think the "mathematics" and language argument is a bit misleading. the Bible doesn't use the terms atheism, monotheism, or rapture either and yet we have no issue referring to these concepts from a biblical perspective. The Bible does, however, say ὃς ὢν ἀπαύγασμα τῆς δόξης καὶ χαρακτὴρ τῆς...
  10. Wormwood

    Seven Lessons for John 1:1c

    1. Tigger, I did not call you a liar. I said your arguments sound exactly like what is found on JW sites and is a regular line of argumentation they use. I specifically said that your claims were nonsense that were either derived by you or a JW professor who taught you. Saying you were...
  11. Wormwood

    Do you do this?

    Marymog, I have to disagree with you on your position. First, for clarification, I don't think the Romans comment should be taken to mean the early Christians "literally" thought they were eating Jesus' body. I mean, after all, the Romans also accused the Christians of being "atheists" since...
  12. Wormwood

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Stranger, I think we should assume that someone is being honest unless proven otherwise. Clearly, this person is skeptical of dispensationalism but also open to understanding more. It doesn't mean Naomi will accept the explanations because clearly she? holds to a hermeneutical approach that...
  13. Wormwood

    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    F2F, I think your caricaturization of Trinitarian theology is both inaccurate and unfair. If anything, Trinitarians hold strongly to the Scriptures and do not discount any of the Scriptures you have quoted. If anything, our position may seem "complex" because we hold all these passages as...
  14. Wormwood

    Aspen and Tigger 2 discuss 'who is God?'

    In my estimation, the identity of Jesus is paramount to what it means to be a "Christian." This is precisely what 1 John is about. People who discount the biblical teaching about the person and work of Christ are undermining the very fabric of the Gospel. Jesus is not just a name. The name...
  15. Wormwood

    Discuss: Hurricanes, mudslides...what the heck? Is God responsible?

    Miss Hepburn, Ahh, gotcha. Well, to answer your question..."when ALL mankind's heart, thoughts, words and deeds are pure these natural disasters could end?" My response would be that 1. Humanity is inherently sinful. Both humans and the world are marred by the effects of sin and so I don't...
  16. Wormwood

    Discuss: Hurricanes, mudslides...what the heck? Is God responsible?

    True. Perhaps some die because of Gods specific judgement on something they did. We don’t know. It is not for us to judge. Only to seek grace and mercy since we all deserve death.
  17. Wormwood

    Discuss: Hurricanes, mudslides...what the heck? Is God responsible?

    Not at all what I was saying. Disasters are the result of sin in general, primarily Adam's sin of which we are all affected by and continue in. I am not the judge and neither are you to say that these specific people died because of their specific sin. I think Jesus warns us of this kind of...
  18. Wormwood

    Discuss: Hurricanes, mudslides...what the heck? Is God responsible?

    I think the Bible clearly teaches that the chaos, suffering and death in the world is the result of OUR sin. Thus, we are responsible for the suffering, horrors and death in this world, not God. Jesus came to usher in God's Kingdom and God's will. He came to bring light into darkness. The...
  19. Wormwood

    God commands disobedience to his word

    I think you are greatly misunderstanding the Scriptures and making serious accusations against God that He is inconsistent and unreliable. 1. God instructed people not to take judgment into their own hands by murdering one another. After all, in that same context, God instructs the people to...
  20. Wormwood

    The proof of OSAS

    GodsGrace, Thank you for your kind response. The only caveat I would add is that I, myself, wouldn't argue that we are "required" to keep the Old Covenant. First that would suggest that we are required to maintain the dietary laws, sacrificial laws, etc. I do not believe this as I understand...