Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. keithr

    I am God

    That's a poor translation - so poor that it means the opposite of what it should say! Consider a literal translation: Philippians 2:5-9 (LSV): (5) For let this mind be in you that [is] also in Christ Jesus, (6) who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not something to be seized to be...
  2. keithr

    I am God

    Josiah and Jeremiah also said that God/YHVH "is with me": 2 Chronicles 35:21 (WEB): (21) But he sent ambassadors to him, saying, “What have I to do with you, you king of Judah? I come not against you today, but against the house with which I have war. God has commanded me to make haste. Beware...
  3. keithr

    I am God

    It should be obvious - Jesus did not say that he is God because he is not God. He is God's only begotten son: 1 John 4:9 (9) In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 1 Corinthians 8:6 (WEB)...
  4. keithr

    THE LORD WILL REIGN ON EARTH WITH ISRAEL

    That passage does not say that the world/earth will be destroyed - it says those living on the earth will see Jesus coming with great power and glory, and that then the "elect" shall be gathered (“These are those who came out of the great tribulation", Revelation 7:14, those that became...
  5. keithr

    THE LORD WILL REIGN ON EARTH WITH ISRAEL

    What translation is that? Other translations are: KJV: (21) And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. WEB: (21) It shall happen in that day that Yahweh will punish the army of the...
  6. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    So when Jesus said "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don’t have life in yourselves", according to you he was not telling the truth, for this figure of speech, just like the parable in Luke 16, was not literally true. Yes, because it...
  7. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    (Technically Jesus is not all-knowing - Mark 13:32 (WEB): (32) But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. but let's not digress!) You haven't eaten Jesus' flesh nor drank his blood, so you are dead (no life in you); or was...
  8. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    :rolleyes: Therefore when Jesus told parables, which are made-up stories, he was not lying. There's no more that needs to be said about it. Parables are not records of events that actually took place at some time and place. You are wrong to insist that the events and places described in parables...
  9. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    A parable is a made-up story, a work of the imagination. It is neither true nor a lie; it is an imaginary story designed to illustrate or teach some truth. Here are two examples, Matthew 13:44-46 (WEB): (44) “Again, the Kingdom of Heaven is like treasure hidden in the field, which a man...
  10. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    A dictionary definition of a lie is: To present false information with the intention of deceiving. Jesus telling a parable (a made-up story, allegory) is not intended to deceive, so it is not a lie.
  11. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    A made up (fabricated, imagined) story is not a lie. A dictionary definition of a story is: The telling of a happening or connected series of happenings, whether true or fictitious (Webster New World College Dictionary) Made up stories are not deceitful (as long as it's clear that it is just...
  12. keithr

    Yes, Jesus meant TODAY in his message to the thief on the cross

    Yep, you're right. I'm not one of those "fellas"!
  13. keithr

    Yes, Jesus meant TODAY in his message to the thief on the cross

    I agree with you. Jesus said, John 6:54 (WEB): (54) He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
  14. keithr

    Yes, Jesus meant TODAY in his message to the thief on the cross

    More likely he was thinking of John 11:26 (WEB): (26) Whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
  15. keithr

    Yes, Jesus meant TODAY in his message to the thief on the cross

    The events were: 1) Jonah was thrown overboard from the ship and into the sea. 2) He was in the sea, about to drown, surrounded by weeds above and the "roots of the mountains"; he was about to die. Barnes Notes comments on 2:2 says: Out of the belly of hell cried I - The deep waters were as...
  16. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    The only verse in the whole Bible which says that all souls belong to God is Ezekiel 18:4. Why did you not read and quote the whole verse? You did not quote the whole verse in your later post (#303): Ezekiel 18:4 (WEB): (4) Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the...
  17. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    The apostle Paul taught differently - 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (WEB): (16) For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with God’s trumpet. The dead in Christ will rise first, (17) then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up...
  18. keithr

    Lucifer's Original Rebellion

    You're being adversarial again. If you can't be calm, civil, and friendly, as a Christian should be, then I'm not interested in continuing the discussion. Do you think Jesus would talk to people like you do? I don't. I won't respond to any more of your posts in this thread, so you can calm...
  19. keithr

    Lucifer's Original Rebellion

    If you can't respond in a civil manner then I will not continue with the discussion. Remember the forum rules: No Flaming, Goading or Harassment. All members should be treated with the utmost respect and courtesy at all times following the rules of civil discourse. No insults are allowed...
  20. keithr

    Lucifer's Original Rebellion

    My first post was simply to state why I found it impossible to believe what you believe. There was no need for me to comment on all that you wrote (pages and pages of it!). But as you keep asking I will comment some more. Of course Jeremiah 4 is not talking about the days of creation, but...