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    Apostasy and the lie of the tithe

    It's one thing to support those who go out and minister the Gospel, and quite another to hand over the primary portion of one's giving in support of dead buildings, lawn care, and all the other creature comforts and luxuries professing believers within institutionalized religion luxuriate BACK...
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    Music and Visuals

    Here's several video tunes I put together the past couple of days: Abba I Belong To You Revelation Song Hey You Adventurous Learning To Fly High Hopes
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    The PM's from LS continue, even though I'm not reading them. They're not worth reading...speaking from experience.. Get over yourself, LS. I'm sure tithing isn't the first belief you've been wrong about. SW
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    At the expense of being accused by some of mockery (which this isn't), the attitudes exhibited by LS are actually a very common malady among those who have a strong belief in something; coupled with an unreasonable level of self-assurances that they are utterly, perfectly right, and therefore...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Oh. Perhaps we were both wrong, then. Equally, I wasn't mocking, but rather observing the fact that you avoided some key questions, which is typical of those who believe every modern believer should be tithing in accordance with illegitimagte interpretations of scripture. I am amazed at how so...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Playing the victim card doesn't gain you any ground. The only mockeries are all the denials of the clear language of scripture. You claimed Abraham tithed. Yes...of the spoils that belonged to other people. You conveniently ignored that, later in Numbers 31, the Lord commanded FAR less than a...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Good grief! Those pharasees were still under the Law. Do you want evidence for that? Look at the incident where Jesus told one of the men He had healed to go and offer up the burnt, thanksgiving sacrifices at the altar, according to the Law. Just because Jesus said it to those people doesn't...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    [/color] I agree. Percentages are neither here nor there. The problem I have is with the pro-required-tithe teachings that enjoy historic backing, although no scriptural backing. Perhaps "custom" is too weak a term when it comes to grasping the full extent of evil behind the...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Based on what? My experience with blanket statements such as this is that such assumptions lead only to the dead-end of legalism. There are many people blessed who don't tithe, and many people who do tithe faithfully, and yet who suffer greatly. Complaining isn't the issue in question here...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Ok, 2027, what did you glean from those passages of scripture?
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Very true indeed. It's only by way of the wildest of imaginations, or one who has a devlish agenda, that one can see what isn't there. Good point. That's why I refer ro tithing as an act of "handing over." No amount of mental/intellectual girations can possibly concoct a reasonable...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Ahh. I see. I thought you were talking about tithing itself. That doctrine, from what I've been able to dig up, traces its roots back to the sixth century. That's the earliest I can find any reference to what's commonly taught today. Pagan practices were the most predominant in the fourth...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Ahhh, but Barna and his gang who do ,allegedly imparial, surveys, seem to think most professing believers don't tithe faithfully. Most institutional church organizations provide data showing that those who attend churchianity don't give enough to organized religion. Given the many fleshly...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    That's exactly the problem today. For most, when they tithe, that tends to be the majority, primary portion of their giving, Handing that over to institutionalized church organizations, in most cases, is a robbery of God, not giving to God. Yes, if they do so out of a sense of requirement. SW
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    Music Lyrics

    Can someone put some good, Christian lyrics to the song at the following location, and share them with us here? http://www.filedropper.com/musicforchange Thanks
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    Abraham used currency, which proves that currency served as the means and measuring stick (so to speak) by which the worth and value of commodities and livestock were traded. Jesus Himself spoke of the CURRENCY the laborers in the field were told they would receive for the days labor in His...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    That's pretty much what I get from the texts when I read them. As much as I've tried, I can't find the continuity in the teachings of those who instruct that the tithing requirement is still for today. Those who teach that must perform all manner of intellectual gymnastics in order to violate...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    I hope you don't mind if I refuse to engage in ad hominem bantering with you..... Yes. He was speaking to a man at a time when all the Israelites were still under the Law. Ok. I get that. Those who owned producing lands, herds and flocks handed over a tithe of those very items from the...
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    Tithe...NOT a christian doctrine

    So, when Jesus told the man He had healed to go and sacrifice at the temple, do you do that as well? Can you show me in the Law where wage earners were required to hand over one red cent to the Levites? What does that have to di with tithing? BTW
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    Polygamy?

    (Denver;9008) A type is nothing more than a type, an ideal. That differs greatly from a commandment or God's Word which makes it a sin. Good point. I would agree that it's indeed an ideal for most men to have only one wife. Population ratios simply wouldn't allow for too many men to have more...