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Kriss,So it is your belief that God gave Satan and perhaps all angels the power to create life. And I here I thought all Christians believed that only God creates.And how did these creatures survive the flood? And looking around us how do we know the spawn of Satan today? Skin color? Size?

well, again I ask you, if that is your understanging of what transpired, how a spiritual being (other than God) can procreate with a physical being?In the physical world, of which a part of us lies (we are spirit and body), procreation (at least for humans) requires material from TWO PHYSICAL...

(Pildit;40598) If he already won, then what is anyone fighting for? Your immortal soul. God loves you.

Mmmmmmm, while I would not argue that the "act" of simulating intercourse with a human is not impossible for a demonic spirit, how could it be that such a simulated act would result in life? I mean we are talking about purely spiritual beings (angels) interacting with beings that are both...

Jesus calls HImslef the Son of God;Jhn 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? The demons recognize Him for who He is;Mat 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus...

(waynemlj;40426) Hi DrBubbaLove,Just a quick comment on these words in your last post:"Genesis1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."God said those words BEFORE the FALL. There was no sin of disobedience...

and people have tried to disprove it for nearly 500 years now, even the most recent modern tests are inconclusive. It is either a really, really good fraud or the real deal.

Jon-MarcI took the OP question to be asking not exactly where the thief went, but why he got to go there. We can all pretty much agree that Paradise is not Hell and that is a simple no brainer. So I took the OP as asking how it is possible the thief is "saved" outside the normal/traditional view...

Thank's Wayne,The modern Oneness verison of modalism has the same problems it did 1800 years ago. Still waiting to hear how you see it possible for God to have impefect knowledge of Himself. If you do not want to tackle that one then at least explain to us who dies on the Cross in this version...

Thanks Crusader,good quotes, am not sure if it is a forum rule but think they insist on using KJV only here, though it does not appear to change the particular verses you mention. Just thought I would mention it to you, their sandbox and all.

LGFHave never heard of people worshipping the shroud. Have heard of many taking bus trips to see images of it, even when displayed at Catholic shrines, but in my experience most of the tourists are curious Protestants, not Catholics. There is one such shrine within an hour of Birmingham Alabama...

I suppose if it were true that giving in to our baser nature and urges prevents us from sinning further then there might be a point there. Personally found the opposite to be true. The satisfaction is temporary and ultimately merely leads one to seek more rather than less. Also makes it that...

Kriss,We are thinking on different levels. God judges the heart and it is there where He, and He alone, determines what is sin and what is not for that individual. This is why as scripture says something could be a sin for one and the same thing not a sin for another. God alone determines that...

God does not "decide" sin, He judges people hearts. The Pope does not decide sin either, His role as our Shepard is to lead us away from sin. If something we are doing is wrong, then the Pope's job would be to point that out, as John Paul did with Russia for example.To say using a laptop...

Yeah I agree, think it would crack Him up to think any believer would see Him as having imperfect knowledge.

Wayne,Thanks for the opinion, we all have them. However your's begs a question.Please enlighten us on how you see God the Father having an imperfect Image of Himself, that His Knowledge of Himself is not Perfect (which I guess means you do not see God has having Perfect Knowledge).

Tallman,How do we know what "today" means to a dead person, a disembodied soul? Without my body to experience/sense change, by what standard could our soul gauge "today"? Some have supposed that from the view of the dead, the rest of history unfolds and they reach resurrection/judgement at the...

Wayne,Like the idea but think it should be taken much further than you do.Imagine God the Father, Creator of ALL things before He made anything. He is Perfect in every aspect, every attribute, including Knowledge. When we speak of a reflection of ourselves or our knowledge of our self, there is...

yeah I agree Kriss, am not sure what the point of the OP was.

So your conclusion is that even though Paul said it is good for him to remain celibate and that it would be good for ANYONE THAT COULD do so, to remain celibate, that somehow this CANNOT apply to Priests. Is that your position? BTW not EVERYONE is CALLED TO be a Priest.