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  1. AceWestfall08

    Christianity boils down to believing in the end, there's no other way around it

    I think Love is what survives and conquers death. The love that you hold for others and the love they hold for you. True love that you can't fake, causes a piece of ourselves to exist past death. A connection, and essence that survives. The story of Jesus tells of man who Loved everybody so much...
  2. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    I have seen on numerous occasions of people telling me they have truly seeked and believed in God....but then told me later they have serious doubts or have lost belief in him. This occurrence happens to alot of people.....alot of morally good people. Telling them to simply "believe" and let god...
  3. AceWestfall08

    Christianity boils down to believing in the end, there's no other way around it

    The struggle between Believing and Knowing is Real. I'm the type of person who can't believe something until it checks out logically or if I seen something. The main reason I truly give Christianity a fair shot is because of a vision I had where a floating head said "Thomas, I swear by my great...
  4. AceWestfall08

    Reconciling delusion

    I Understand exactly what you mean by this. Several times it has changed my life. My delusions have cost me my job several times, my living situation, my money, my relationships, etc. I tend to sit on this fence where my emotions exaggerate everything, and God guiding my life. There has been...
  5. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    True faith sticks with you. Throughout your whole life. It is tested. Storytime....a few years ago, i was tripping out mentally due to Schizophrenic issues. I ended up going to jail and when I got I was forced to move. I ended up moving in with my schizophrenic mother and a month later i was...
  6. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    I'm bipolar schizophrenic. So i have to be careful about falling into a religious delusion. It has happened to me in the past. That is what happens to me when I start blindly believing in something. The first time, because i read about the rich man refusing to sell his goods and pick up his...
  7. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    Ok, let me ask you this. How do you feel about the people in the past that came after Jesus, but did not hear the gospel. The native americans for example. I'm sure there are some of those people who did not hear the gospel but wanted a relationship with God. They did not believe or accept...
  8. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    And what would you say to somebody to who God means dearly too. Like he is my only emotional support in my life for the last decade. God I have no doubts. I can't bring myself to get behind "Jesus". I'm like the doubting Thomas. I have seen a floating head, that gave me an oath by his name...I...
  9. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    Thats my point. Do you think God will void his sacrifice for you, just because you don't believe the sacrificed happened or have you doubts, but you believe in God. My biggest problem with Christianity is the REQUIRED belief that Jesus died to save you to have a relationship with God. I tend to...
  10. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    Tell me about your ONGOING relationship with God/Jesus/Spirit. Without reciting scripture. You are describing to me what you have researched. There is a clear difference between Reading and learning about him, and actually have him in your life guiding you. If your vision of him is based on what...
  11. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    Does a sacrifice become invalid because you don't believe in it" Maybe the sacrifice of Jesus was to take away the sins of mankind. Which in and itself is enough. The added requirement of belief seems to belittle the sacrifice. Like he only sacrificed himself for certain individuals instead of...
  12. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    The Parable of the Sower 13 That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the lake. 2 Such large crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and sat in it, while all the people stood on the shore. 3 Then he told them many things in parables, saying: “A farmer went out to sow his...
  13. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    John 5:37-40 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal...
  14. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    I didn't fully believe in my heart until i had a vision, where a man that was my father told me that he was gabriel in his body and then rose his hand and a spiritual liquid was poured over me, and a floating head popped into existence and said "Thomas, i swear by my great name. You are mine!"...
  15. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    Seems to me this is a thread about belief with the motive of living forever. Like the cost to live forever is to just simply Believe. I think people miss the actual point. The point is not about living forever. Its about having a relationship with the Father that doesnt end. Death itself can't...
  16. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    Abraham was facing two difficult decisions. Either believe God and keep hope of having a child, or not believe God and dwell in sadness over not having a child. Abraham chose hope and was rewarded for that. My God is a God of hope and comfort. Not fear mongering and total admiration for his Son
  17. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    Doing good works for the sake of a reward sounds to me like it isn't from the heart, and shouldn't be reward.
  18. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    The Parable says the Good and Evil people will be there. Will the evil people be clothed in the Righteousness of Christ? I think it is more of something to do with respect for the occasion. Meaning do you take it seriously? The Kingdom, Salvation, God. Whatever it is. Christ is the one getting...
  19. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    4Jesus put before them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and slipped away. 26When the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the weeds also appeared.27The owner’s...
  20. AceWestfall08

    How to go to Hell. Pt 1

    The Parable of the Net 47Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was cast into the sea and caught all kinds of fish. 48When it was full, the men pulled it ashore. Then they sat down and sorted the good fish into containers, but threw the bad away.49So will it be at the end of the...