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    Israel, Judah and Jew are not synonymous terms

    I think you and I are finished here, Richard_otiIve no intention of wasting any more time with you. have a nice evening.
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    For you readers, simply look at the evidence yourself.Dont allow anyone who tries to make this all more complicated than it is confuse you.Jesus was in a entirely different environment during His ministry as the old covenant was not yet set aside and would not be until His death ratified the new...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    (RichardBurger;51695) That is my point. Paul's gospel is the same as the gospel of Christ's. As the article stated "In Galatians 1:7 you have "the gospel of Christ," which is another name for the Gospel of the grace of God".Richard If you are claiming that they ARE the same gospel, then what on...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    (RichardBurger;51697) No! It is your play on words, that you have changed, that are confusing you. There is no confusion here, friend, except that which tries to assert that there is more than once single gospel. In one place you say Gospel of Christ (ABOUT Christ and that is what Paul preached)...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    You want to say that the gospel Christ taught is the gospel ABOUT Christ that Paul preached and that is not true. What a load of nonsense.Jesus spoke about Himself ALL the time !It IS true...BOTH Christ and Paul taught THE gospel...CHRISTS gospel.Ive seen nothing presented by you here that...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    (RichardBurger;51697) No! It is your play on words, that you have changed, that are confusing you. There is no confusion here, friend, except that which tries to assert that there is more than once single gospel. In one place you say Gospel of Christ (ABOUT Christ and that is what Paul preached)...
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    Israel, Judah and Jew are not synonymous terms

    (Richard_oti;51691) I am assuming you are meaning from the NT alone. If so: Understood. Agreed with or simply understood my statement ? However apart from the historical aspect, such an understanding may possibly be flawed. Please dont mistake my previous statement.My area of study is not...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    Lets see what Pauls gospel is, shall we ?Co 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. 1Co 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    (RichardBurger;51687) If it was only in one place I might agree with you. Maybe this will help you see it.Richard No, it wont help me see it.If Paul said 'my gospel' thousands of times, and over his ministry he very well could have verbalized it, it STILL does not mean that his is not Christs...
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    Israel, Judah and Jew are not synonymous terms

    (Richard_oti;51678) Yet, without knowing the history any study of the NT usage can not be fully supported. The history is required to come to a full depth of understanding upon the topic. Ive presented scriptures that use 'JEW' that simply MUST mean the word in a way to universally speak of the...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    Here you go Rich...maybe this will help some which was kept secret since the world began, or "from eternal times": from all the ages of the former dispensation, or that have run out from the beginning of the world; not that this mystery of the Gospel was entirely unknown, nor any hints given of...
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    Israel, Judah and Jew are not synonymous terms

    (Richard_oti;51670) Of the tribe of Benjamin, the House of Judah [aka Jew], of the Israelites. ok Not sure if youve read my posts, but Im pretty sure Ive already agreed that this was the case
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    Did Gentiles Jack the Covenant

    The old covenant wasnt renewed....it was made altogether obsolete... By the saying "new ," He has made the first obsolete. And the one becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish. (Heb 8:13 EMTV)...with the ratification of this new covenant that is given to 'one NEW man' that consists...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    (RichardBurger;51658) Okay, you think you have explianed away everything else but I notice you didn't bother to try and explain this.Notice that in Acts 3:21 Peter is proclaiming things made known by the prophets since the world began.In contrast, in the book of Romans, 16:25, Paul is...
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    Israel, Judah and Jew are not synonymous terms

    (Jackie D;51638) Sorry FoC...there just isn't any sense in having two threads going on the same topic...carry on:D Its ok My actual points didnt fit in the theme of this thread, honestly.I was only bickering the minor point that "Jew" in the NT can be generically used for all of Jacobs...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    (thesuperjag;51654) One scripture...I Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.That's prove enough along with John...
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    Did Jesus come to minister to the Gentiles?

    You are saying that the gospel never changed. The Good News, itself did not change.It was offered to the Jew first, they rejected it as a whole, it was then offered to the gentiles.You may mistake the fact that Jesus was a Jew born under law who followed the law because he WAS a Jew under law as...
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    Israel, Judah and Jew are not synonymous terms

    Apparently my post was lost when these two threads were combined (Hope;51628) That is not nice. I am sad you started this here when you know I had started this subject under "ISRAEL, JUDAH and the JEW". I really wanted to talk about the matter for I was guided to do so. I did not bring the...
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    Israel, Judah and Jew are not synonymous terms

    Apparently hope, you think you have stumbled onto something here.I assure you havent.I already responded to this erroneous assertion in the other thread where you brought it up (Hope;51616) I think many did not understand Paul. 1 Corinthians 920And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might...