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(treeoflife;54806) Excuse you, but I never said anything different. Don't insult me by saying that I am "accepting his truth". You lie. And, if you say otherwise, you lie more. Of course we are conscious and alive in heaven... but the saints who are there, have died, and they cannot hear us...

(jamesrage;54795) Catholics calling God "Allah" to appease non-catholics.That by itself just sounds wrong. What if Christians referred to the bible as "fictitious literature" to appease atheist,what if Christians referred to Jesus as just a prophet to appease muslims and any other group that...

(jamesrage;54793) As Christians the only one we should be praying to is God. When we say pray to the Saints we mean it in the sense of asking which is what the word pray means. It may not be exactly the way you use it, but that is what pray means. It is perfectly legitimate to ask others to pray...

(thesuperjag;54792) You guys are twisting the Word to suit your carnally desire... Translation - I can't refute what you say, and all the scriptures you quote (or possibly I just haven't read them) so I shall just abuse you.(thesuperjag;54792) Matthew 6:9-13 - After this manner therefore pray...

(treeoflife;54787) The saints are alive, in God's presence. Praise God that you are now accepting his truth as given in scripture.(treeoflife;54787) Do what you want, because that's what you're going to do. If it makes you feel good to think that you have dead people (alive in heaven) who can't...

(kriss;54766) Christ came not to change the Law LGF but to fulfill it nothing has changed except we have Jesus Christ as our one mediator. Your point about Christ being the one mediator has been dealt with in posts #6 & #15. Why are you raising it again?

treeoflife, krissWhy do you continue to contradict scripture by calling the saints that have gone before us to heaven dead when they are alive?I made this post earlier and you have avoided answering it.(winsome;54722) There seems to be a problem here that is fundamental. And that is what happens...

(treeoflife;54725) I did provide evidence. Read my post again, and listen to my reasoning. Nowhere in the Word of God are we told to, asked to, or shown to pray to saints who have died, and gone into the Lord's presence. The burden of proof is on you.Are we omnipresent like God when we die...

There seems to be a problem here that is fundamental. And that is what happens to the soul at death. There seem to be three options:1. Annihilation - the soul dies and is resurrected with the body. I have not heard any Christian espouse this.2. "Soul Sleep" - the souls "sleeps until the...

(treeoflife;54716) You are talking apples and oranges. Praying with others, and asking prayers from others who are conscious and aware (very much alive), having a will of their own and being able to agree or disagree... is not the same as talking to people who are dead. Can you show me where in...

(kriss;54706) WinsomeThere is only one mediator in my opinion I agree there is only one mediator. The point is that does not invalidate asking others to pray for us. If you are saying that Christ being the one mediator does invalidate asking others to pray for us then Paul was wrong to ask...

(kriss;54669) Hi Winsome The saints are not perfect no one is except Christ they were humans just like the rest of us Many of the Elect will become saints and reign and rule with Christ, but that is not because they were sinless and perfect to claim this diminishes our savior. As he was the Only...

(thesuperjag;54665) I take it the fact that you want me to be brainwashed by men. I already wide open... I do know where it is going though... and you still haven't yet given me scriptures to back that up. You mean like you gave scriptures to back up:"There is a major difference between praying...

(Sir Knight;54623) And yet, we still have ten. How is that? If you have ten and we have ten and we removed #2, how do we still have ten? Shouldn't we have nine? 10-1=9 Which of our ten doesn't belong? Without checking I think there are actually 12 commandments rather than 10. We get down to 10...

(tomwebster;54666) Why are we turning the subject of this post into Bible versions? Because in response to a comment by Watt“We Must Obey GOD And Not To Change Any Of THE WORD OF GOD.”Alpha and Omega launched into an attack on the Catholic Church“Catholic Church did this. Countless new Bible...

(thesuperjag;54657) Your post are dosgusting. I see no fruits of Christ... all I see is opinions that can't be backed up with scriptures.There is a major difference between praying for people who is alive physically on Earth and praying to a dead person like Mary.BTW, do you have scriptures to...

(kriss;54625) Thanks for your veiw Winsome I understand this is the veiw of the church and you are saying it is not forbidden in scripture. But it is not taught in scripture either as 1 Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." So I...

(Alpha and Omega;54633) Yes. However, the KJV has no copyrights therefore anyone can publish this Bible. There is no stopping Zondervan from publishing the KJV. Also the NIV is published only by Zondervan and they hold the rights to the NIV and no one else. I will give you a response in due...

Kriss,You have made several different points here. Let me try and separate them and discuss them one at a time.1. Speaking to the dead(kriss;54518) also the following Scriptures which forbid talking with the dead: Deuteronomy 18:11; 1 Samuel 28:1-25; 1 Chronicles 10:13-14; Isaiah 8:19.; 1...

(Alpha and Omega;54529) Furthermore, the publisher of the Catholic Bible ZONDERVAN who is owned by Harper Collins who publishes The joy of gay sex and the Satanic BibleJesus said that a corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruit. There is NO WAY that the Satanic bible can live in harmony with...