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Logabe, they still has this to refute... And many more mistakes are in this "devil's rebellion"... I'll leave here another argument. To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the...

Iforrest... You have not proven nothing yet... So the fact that children are easily MANIPULATED and believe anything you want them to believe proves free will in them?? The decision was not theirs, was yours! They believe because they cannot fight your arguments, not because they want! But ok...

HI Andy... So this faith is not a saving faith? But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, {Saying}, Blessed...

Veteran... If you want to discuss Ezekiel 28 you know what you have to do... stop pretending not to see and refute all my arguments instead of using one previously refuted argument to support another also refuted. Stop supporting theory on top of theory. Then you'll have my attention, until...

Dodo... No, I really meant what I wrote... Now, if that can be interpreted in a bad way, well, everything can, but that I can't avoid... what I can do is clarify questions about what I really meant. No, I'm not an Arminian... Just Christian... If Calvin followed this same doctrine than he's a...

Aspen... How do you recognize a Christian? IBEME... You have to start to read what is being taught in every one of your quotes and not just parts of phrases.. Because what you just described is salvation at a cost, and that cost is works... sure you say "the price is the blood of...

Rose... How is that against what I said?? What I said is that fruits and works are not the same... fruits are in the spirit, but works in the flesh. What I'm doing is showing your mistakes because if you see them then you're ready to SEARCH truth, but while you think you're right why would you...

Aspen... What are you trying to do Aspen? ...smart... But yes, all Christians think alike (same nature, the same love and hate) because they have the mind of Christ... now if I believe I'm a christian I also have the truth, and if I believe I have the truth and you do not agree with it that...

Rose... Fruits of the spirit are spiritual, not works of the flesh ... all the fruits of the spirit are characteristics of the spirit, NOT ACTIONS, and that's not works. Willimac... So let me make this clear... If Abraham was justified by faith is this right? Was not Abraham our father...

The point is not the HE knew, of course HE knew, HE knows all, but that makes no point, the point is that Judas betrayed Jesus so that the scripture might be fulfilled... and what you're doing is trying to divert attention from this with something obvious hopping that somehow it can mean the...

ASPEN... Why? Why can't you allow a living GOD? Why does HE have to be constrained to your knowledge of right or wrong? This is your picture: I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these {things}. Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the...

Aspen... How convenient? Didn't Christ answered the same to the Jews... even in this you can't believe? Of course not, you think you have free will. What more can I tell you Aspen? You don't believe anything, even if I show it to you by the bible like I've already done in many ways. I have...

Aspen... Perfect description of the law... God chooses one people and then they must maintain this "grace" by their works... a grace that is deserved by works... imagine that. That's not grace, that's the law Aspen.... that's not a FREE salvation. Even so then at this present time also there...

Dodo... That's not what he's saying, but even if it was that's wrong too!! Faith does not need works to be real, nor works are a faithful testimonial of faith. And this is shown when Paul says WITHOUT WORKS... that's what he's teaching, and to accept this you have do reject James, or by...

WILLIEMAC... I did read your message... and was a theory in your "proper protocol in bible interpretation" that ignored my question. I don't accept it because it ignores what is written... that's why. Ok, now there's an answer ... now show me this but not by theorys, by what's written. Or...

Aspen, you don't need to reply to every single phrase, what I need is just answers to what I ASK... answers to the QUESTIONS... that's all what I ask to you all. I'm not saying that no one answers me because some do, but many don't... This post you answered... well, it was just comments, I made...

HI BiggAndyy... No it wasn't, to validate what he said he has to ignore what I've shown... he took one part of what is written and made a theory out of it, but for that theory to stand it has to face all that is written, not just parts. And he did not answered what I ask... Now if you have a...

Hi ChristRoseFromTheDead, you are not answering my question. About the "('can that faith')" you mentioned, it only appears in the most recent translations because the most precise ones say "CAN FAITH" , there's no "that"... however I'm not going to debate this, nor will I use it has an...

I ROSE... No, that's not what I asked... I asked if they reach the same conclusion about Abrahams justification or if are they preaching the same gospel (way to be saved). There's only one faith, James is not talking about true or fake, his talking about FAITH. And regarding to faith Paul says...

Simplicity of breaking verses in half? Sure, that's why today between the verse 1 and 2 of Genesis some manage to put another creation. Prophecys are for the future... Amazingly, your KJV puts part of this verses to the future ... most of the other do not like the American Standard Version or...