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That is a very interesting thought Veteran. I don't yet know if I agree or disagree but do want to spend time looking into it. .

:D Yes! . That deserves another great big :D .

The mount of Olives is...the nation of olive trees, His nation of believers. The mount Sion is...the nation of the called ones, the tribes of the children of Israel. They are called as they are the wife, His servants and they are apart from the whole of the church, or, all of the olive trees...

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at His coming. Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever He goeth. These were redeemed...

LOL...that is quite true. If one cannot see that God created the various races...from the beginning...then one does indeed believe in evolution. .

I believe that the battle has been ongoing for millennia...and will culminate at His appearance. Armageddon is spiritual in nature, good against evil, God vs. the Devil. The spirits of devils, etc. have been influencing the whole world and consequently many good men have fallen to their...

There is simplicity in Christ but the "simple Word of Truth" is not simple to all eyes and ears. If it was we would all understand Scripture in the same way. LOL...you would all see it as I do or we would all see it as you do. . Zechariah 4:11-14 Then answered I, and said unto him...

What is the particular point you are referencing? .

They are not the same but they are the firstfruits. True...many will be saved but they will not be the firstfruits. It is not changed...it is written: Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are...

:D Who is "they?" As far as I know, I haven't seen anyone else on this forum speak of two groups. May I ask, what do I wish to refute when I see the two groups? What do I wish to believe that has any bearing on understanding the two groups? No, "they" don't construct this on their...

Yes, Gentiles are grafted into Israel and have the same inheritance. But, that doesn't mean there are not two groups of 144,000, Zechariah 4:2-3 And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his...

Please take each subject separately. Do you agree that the flesh taken aboard the ark was more than elephants, giraffes and zebras? Do you agree that it was indeed....people? If your answer is yes then you see that Cain and/or his offspring could well have been saved from the flood. I submit...

Most understand the two groups of 144,000 to be the same but....they aren't. They are One in Christ but they are two groups. One of Israel, the other of "the earth," Gentiles. Together they are the One Body. .

One group are the twelve tribes but the other group are redeemed from earth and they "sing a new song." The Song of Moses wasn't a "new song." Only one group of the 144,000 could "learn that song." Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four...

Yes, I would agree. There are two groups of the 144,000. One group consists of the tribes while the other is made up of those redeemed from the earth. There we see the natural and the wild olive. Or....the two witnesses. . . . Thank you for the clarification. I would...

Not through Abraham but through his offspring Isaac and Jacob was the Seed called. Abraham, the father of us all refers to his faith. However, the promise is not given to the tribes only but is to all through faith. Abraham is the father of all who have faith. Romans 4:13- 16 For the...

It is written.... Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven,neither the Son, but the Father. However, it is also written.... John 10:30 I and my Father are one. John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you...

The Warls1, I understand the seed of Satan to be a literal line from the garden while others see it to be those spiritually in his clutches. I don't know if one superceeds the other. But, if we are to have brotherly love then please have it for Vengle. I have seen nothing of his thoughts that...

Such as...the ground. :) As the beast has seven heads, which the Bible tells us are symbolic of mountains....and mountains are symbolic of nations....then the seven headed beast refers to seven nations. Perhaps the seven continents or, to put it in other words....the world or world-wide...

You have answered your question Gypsy. When we are in Christ and He in us....there is no room for Satan. He is cast out. If Christ is not in us then there is some house cleaning that need be done. . I too agree. If we are of Christ then the devil is not within us. That is the...