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Great! I've no input for a topic: I'll just follow along with whatever others want. I'm looking forward to learning with others. Blessings, Surfy

Blessings. Regarding developing spiritual gifts, you do have all of them, I believe, but I realize that I'm the odd duck out with that belief. Some are given for ministration of the body of Christ, and all the other are for the building of the body of Christ via the unsaved. The former is for...

I wasn't being sarcastic. When I read your post, I had to pause, as I didn't know what to say, really. For one, it was actually the perfect example of what I had posted about. So I was just honest about it. I prefer not to lie. Second, I wondered if I should post that reply, or not. As I...

I couldn't have asked anyone to provide a more perfect example of what my post was speaking of. Thank you. Have a good week.

If this be true -- (Eph 1:3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenlies in Christ; And if this be true -- (Luk 12:48) But he not knowing, and doing things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to...

so for those before that post (almost 2000 years of believers) and those who never have the chance of reading that post, is there no way of understanding? seems to be an interesting statement that you made. Scripture was given that we might be complete and lacking nothing, fully furnished...

I just read through all my posts on this thread and haven't seen any such statement by me. But then again, my wife says that I have the bad habit of looking for something and not finding it when it's right there. So if you could be so kind as to show me where I stated that, I'd appreciate it...

Scripture has one apostle speak of Abraham as an example of faith, not works. Scripture has another apostle speak of Abraham as an example of works. And then scripture ties it all together. It is the ignorant, those who insist on choosing one set of scripture over against another set of...

I wish to make two points here. The first is to Anastacia, and tha second is to all, in which I thrown my hat into the ring, so to speak. Frist, I'll try to communicate better here. Sorry if I haven't so far, Anastacia. The verses that I've not "acknowledged" for free choice, I've done so on...

Anastacia, I also thought that it was goofy that we'd be debating "against" each other. I had thought of PMing you, but it was initially posted publicly. I still can't agree with your use fo most of those verses. I still think that if you believe a position, they speak of it, and if you...

acts 7:51 O stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so you do. I agree that it speaks of free choice, but the other camp does not. They state that "You always resist" is because they have no choice. This verse is used by both...

You must be looking for a hypocrite behind every bush. All I asked for was scripture that clearly states that there is free choice. I have not posted for or against the issue, although I did state that I agree with Saver and Anastasia (sp) that I agree with them. I've merely been looking for...

Post #1 No scripture for choice #2 no scripture for choice #3 no scripture for choice #4 no scripture for choice #5 no scripture for choice -- the dude is a slave to what he DOESN'T want to do! #6 had one that could be used for that, but it doesn't state it. I will grant that one, though. #7...

Excellent post, James. It is so refreshing to see someone who understands scripture with scripture. What a pleasant change to see that beliefs aren't brought to the table and the scriptures chosen and ignored accordingly. Blessings. Both the OT and the NT have examples of being rejected by...

Why doesn't anyone post the scriptures that speak of our being able to choose? Or does no one know of them? This seems strikingly familiar to the habit to always put forth scriptures that speak of God's love, and virtually never of His hatred, anger, wrath, judgment, jealousy, holiness, etc...

I agree. We do not lay down, and that which will be, will be. And it all works together most beautifully, just as free will and predestination do. To major on the one to the igoring of the other, either way, is errant. The one emphasizes God's perspective, to use that term loosely, and the...

I se what you're saying, yet the belittle the foreknowledge of God. We have the whole OT which is an example of man making poor choices, God's dealing with them, and God even prophecying this. It also states that if we don't fail at it like they did, we will not have the results that they did...

If American Christians would quite acquiescing their stated beliefs, we wouldn't have them choosing between the "lesser" of the evils, condoning one of them. They would then only vote for a righteous leader. Until then, they would withhold their vote. And that would create a huge change in...

Again Sabertruth refuses to actually go through scripture. There is a reason for this. If I'm the problem, go through scripture and show that I've got the problem with the scripture. The reason that I showed no compassion was that Sabertruth dismisses things with a wave of the hand, refusing...

you quote this: 15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17...