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    Reasons why you are very unwise to trust your church’s doctrines

    Thank you very much! I'm about as catholic as a protestant can be =) My message must have not come across well. I will be very blunt, but do try not to confuse my blunt statement with rudeness. Here it goes... There is no such thing as the Charasmatic movement. No one has spoken in tongues...
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    The Walking Rocks

    @ForsakenOne I'm sorry, but I don't understand the large majority of that post. I'll address what I think some things mean. "So who is going to fill in the gaps? God.... :angry: {come on now, you got to see the humor in that response}" Haha, I read this in Napolean Dynamite's voice. "If...
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    KJVO?

    Bah! Emotions! Imagination! What cursed gifts! Just kidding =)
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    Are you evil?

    In so far that I exist, I am good. In so far that I exist as a sinner, I am evil. Yet again, all men are loved by God, so they are good. So, what is the question? If you're talking about the very substance of my existence, I am evil because my very substance is corrupted by sin. If you're...
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    Soul Sleep

    Go to the other thread! :P And I can't for the life of me understand what you wrote. I don't even know who you're agreeing with.
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    Reasons why you are very unwise to trust your church’s doctrines

    But odds are, they're not satanically inspired. Your discernment is likely inadequate. Do not treat your spiritual gifts to infallibility, even the apostles made poor judgment calls, and we both are certainly less than they. Also, Christ was a man. Should the apostles have ignored Him? Because...
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    Where's the water?

    It was a miracle. That doesn't mean it's unexplainable. How did the sea part to open the way for Moses and the Israelites? "The Lord drove the sea back BY A STRONG EAST WIND". Did it defy physics? No, it followed it perfectly. Was it a miracle? Absolutely.
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    Where's the water?

    @ChristianJuggernaut Water into wine is not magic, nor does it go outside the natural laws the God began from the beginning. If God were to go outside the laws he himself set up perfectly in the beginning, it would mean that either God did not make creation the way it should (God messed up) or...
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    Where's the water?

    @ChristianJuggernaut Whoa. The Word means nothing to me? That escalated quickly. I don't know how well your insults are usually tolerated, but believe me when I say this is not welcome. If you call yourself a Christian, you should know the harm of arguing who deserves to sit at the right hand...
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    Hell's Population Clock

    I'm thinking the population of hell is zero. If it was originally created for the demons, and the demons aren't there yet, then why would people be there? In fact, the demon account from Matthew and Luke 8 has the demons ask if Jesus will torment them before their appointed time. So, I say...
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    KJVO?

    Actually, the reason you like it so much is the reason why I despise it. The KJV intentionally makes poetry where there isn't any. Many times it's great and powerful, like you say, but many passages are butchered for the sake of emotional response.
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    Name a really bad doctrine that needs retiring

    Precisely. We're given a body. A body is necessary for human perfection. The new kingdom comes down to the new earth. Adam and Eve were made from the dirt. Our new bodies will equally be dirt. And they will be glorious. Before resurrection, so before your new body, how do you "enter the kingdom...
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    The Walking Rocks

    I don't know. I wasn't there. The point of science isn't to answer everything. It is to answer materially. If you would like metaphysics, that is a different discussion. The finger of God did create the expanse. I don't deny it. God is the cause of everything. However, don't assume that it's...
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    Where's the water?

    Wormwood, I still disagree, but I see your point. If I add white paint to black paint, the black paint doesn't disappear. "Adding good" to the scenario is not reconciliation and is not a way to understand Jesus' passion, death, and resurrection. I think that my argument would be better...
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    Reasons why you are very unwise to trust your church’s doctrines

    @Evangelist-7 I did read your post. You are telling other people that their church isn't really good enough. I'm saying that odds are, their church is fine. I'm not saying house churches are worse or traditional churches are better. Some of the world's largest cults started as house churches...
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    cheap food item for preppers and all

    Alright, if we ignore the awful, useless, apocalypse stories... I live right now on $500 a month. Honestly, that's all I make. My rent is $300 a month, and I use a lot of gas, so that's another $100. In one month, I spend only about $100 on food, girlfriend, and other random things. And here's...
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    Name a really bad doctrine that needs retiring

    1. Spiritual monism: the belief that human beings are essentially souls with bodies. Opposed to hylomorphism, the belief that people are essentially both body AND soul. 2. The above looks real weird until you think of the conclusions. The first is the resurrection becomes useless. If I own a...
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    KJVO?

    King James version is possibly the worst English translation out there. And I'm including "The Message" too.
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    The Walking Rocks

    That is precisely the problem, Martin. If people say, "God did it" and it later turns out that a meteor hit the area, those people have made God look rather dumb.
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    Does God Hate?

    Yes, God hates. However, you can't think of "hate" like a 21st century westerner. It doesn't mean God wants the worst for him. If that were the case, the passage would read that he "curses" Esau. The Lord and Esau are not buddies, not even close. Esau's ways are not God's ways. They conflict...