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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    My argument isn't that the LXX was divinely inspired, but rather that it gives insight into the meaning and understanding of the Hebrew text, particularly with regards to it's grammar, syntax and idioms. This "man-made translation" that you eschew/criticize of having "little value" was used and...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I'm not so sure that's the definition of the trinity by the way. Here is how I understand what the trinity is: Definition of Trinity (taken from Merriam-Webster Dictionary) 1 : the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead according to Christian dogma. Has this...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    And yet, you've not responded to posts #9 and #11, how they're "wrongly quoted" or having a "flawed application", other than by casting your insults far and wide and hoisting up your assertions with overworked and tired dogma. The rest of your comments are really not worth replying to.
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Your assertion that the Bible teaches a trinitarian concept of God hasn't been established. You've simply made the assertion, which is easy to do, but in so doing violated what Jesus Himself taught, here: Mar 12:29 and Jesus answered him—'The first of all the commands is , Hear, O Israel, the...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I understand your assertion, though I don't agree with it insofar as it applies to the Oneness of God doctrine. What I would like you to do is tell me how the following Greek texts (copied from post #9) are being misquoted and/or misapplied. Can you do this for me? 1. The LXX of Gen 1:27...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    With regards to the Divinity of Christ that we're discussing here, no they are not. To the best of my knowledge, Unitarians deny Christ's deity. The Oneness of God doctrine affirms the full deity of Jesus: That Jesus is the Eternal God, YHWH manifested in the flesh (1Ti 3:16). The One in...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    I provided a link that responds to all your "what ifs", "what abouts" and "no other ways". If you will, take a moment and read it. May I ask why you're dodging post #9 and #11?
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Why would I try to refute the Divinity of Christ (Jesus)? I believe all the scriptures that speak/declare that Jesus is God. What I don't find of necessity is believing in the trinitarian concept. I provided a link to the Oneness of God theology (a doctrine I believe to be more biblical than...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    BF52's posts are all over christian forums, and have been for about 15 to 20 years or so, but under different aliases and pseudonyms. He's not really able to engage in a meaningful discussion about what he posts. I'm not sure what to make of it all :confused: :) He's posts are like drive by...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    LOL...you've simply failed to believe what I presented and even what Jesus Himself said as recorded under direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit by not one, but two additional witnesses: Matthew and Mark. Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Of course it does. God has concluded all in unbelief so that He will have mercy upon all: Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Rom 11:31 Even so have...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Did you understand the response ?
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    There is an explanation. It's found in the Gen 2:7 creation account of man. Man (singular person) consists of three (plural) distinct elements: Body, soul and spirit (Gen 2:7 with 1Th 5:23). The singular person (man) was created in the image of God. That singular person (or compound if you...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Actually, we DO KNOW that Christ died for all: 2Co 5:14 for the love of the Christ doth constrain us, having judged thus: that if one for all died, then the whole died, 2Co 5:15 and for all he died, that those living, no more to themselves may live, but to him who died for them, and was...
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    ˒ĕlōhı̂m: Plural Persons, or Majesty?

    Three witnesses would argue against the "Plural Persons" Genesis creation account. Here they are: 1. The LXX of Gen 1:27, found here: καὶ ἐποίησεν (3rd person singular) ὁ θεὸς (singular) τὸν ἄνθρωπον, κατ᾿ εἰκόνα θεοῦ (singular) ἐποίησεν (3rd person singular) αὐτόν, ἄρσεν καὶ θῆλυ ἐποίησεν...
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    Adrian Rogers Shows Calvinism to Be FALSE

    It's speaking of all souls according to the spirit, not the flesh. All souls were created in Christ - Christ being the image of God (Gen 1:27 with 2Co 4:4 and Col 1:15-16) and for Christ (Col 1:16). All souls consist in Christ (Col 1:17). All souls live, move and have their being in Him (Act...
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    John 3.16: Simple Gospel truth and profound theology

    Yes, and all are/will be believers: Luk 12:2 But there is nothing covered up, that shall not be revealed, and hid, that shall not be known. 1Ti 2:4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. Php 2:10 that in the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of things...
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    Adrian Rogers Shows Calvinism to Be FALSE

    A biblical/spiritual understanding of TULIP: T = Total depravity of the flesh (Job 30:23; Job 34:15; Rom 7:18; Rom 8:5-8) U = Unconditional election of Christ for all (Isa 42:1; Isa 44:1,3; Act 17:28; Col 1:16, Eph 1:10) L = Limited atonement for the spirit (Rom 5:10; Rom 5:18; 1Co 5:5; 1Ti...
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    Is God Insincere With The Gospel Offer?

    Well, because the children (sons) of God will not be "the only survivors" in the age of judgment. Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creation waiteth for the revealing of the sons of God. Rom 8:20 For the creation was subjected to vanity, not of its own will, but by reason of him who...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I'm actually interested in discussing this topic. However, before we do, it would help me to understand what you may or may not believe. First: Do you believe that all things were created in and for Christ (Col 1:16)? All things, not some things, but all things created in and for Christ...