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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Here is an idea for those who genuinely believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. Arrange your Icons so that somewhere near the center of your Icons, is the HELP, that those left behind, Can easily find the Help they will desperately NEED. Bible Software, Favorite Hymns, and directions of what...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Jack, it is clear as a bell to me. Are you sure you are BORN AGAIN? Born Again is when the Holy Spirit enters your heart, and over time, HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS. It starts with extreme Grief and Mourning over your utter Sinfulness. But once HE IS IN YOUR HEART, you will have JOY and...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Here is why I am convinced that this Quote from Josephus the First Century Historian correctly identified the Location of the TEMPLE. I guess you could call it that, but where I come from, only demons are fallen spirits. At Child birth only the human brain and body are alive. Our Born Again...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Do I understand it, OH YES, that is why I CRIED AND MOURNED SO MUCH, that Night He brought my salvation to me. A tidbit of info. See why I like this picture so much? I not a European Aritis that Painted it. Straight Back European style chairs. You can recline on cushion or sit with you...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    I am a spiritually Mature Christian, that has been discipled by the BEST TEACHERS, and I will die or be Raptured believing exactly what I have been taught. I have been taught that JW's are psuedo Christian Cult. And since you refuse to tell me what denomination you support, I have to assume you...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Believe what you want, but that is the way I understood the verse. Romans 10:12 (NJB) 12 it makes no distinction between Jew and Greek: the same Lord is the Lord of all, and his generosity is offered to all who appeal to him, Galatians 3:28 (HCSB) 28 There is no Jew or Greek, slave or...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Now you are trying to misapply the verse. All it is saying HE tried everyone alike, no Favoritism in GOD.
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    You forget, Our Bridegroom, is JEWISH. Revelation 11:19 (NASB) 19 And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm. Hebrews...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    No, I only got two speeds at my age, SLOW, and SLOWER.
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    You still do not get it, do you. I am NO LONGER SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH, BECAUSE I HAVE ALREADY FOUND IT. If you want to be there for that, go right ahead. You do know every Tribulation Saints will be beheaded. And I will be at the Wedding of the Lamb In Heaven no later than Rev. 4:4. You...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Yes that is a Proof Text that proves we go almost directly to the Father. Yes, He wanted to speak to Mary Magdalene before He ascended to the Father. But He Probably went there immediately after leaving Mary, to Pour HIS blood on the Heavenly Mercy Seat, and the rest on the Horns of the...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Okay, we are almost on the Same Page. Body, Soul, and Spirit can also be translated Body, Mind, and Spirit. I believe the Spiritual Mind, is centered in the Heart area, and it is Separate from the Fleshy Mind, which lies between your ears, so that the sin nature does not contaminate it...
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    You guys have to start praying for two things: the rapture of the faith (that it be great) and deliverance from the tribulation (that it not spread)

    I will give you an example of that. My son-inlaw is a strict Seven Day Adventist on a Vegetarian Diet, so when my wife and I would have them come over, for supper, she would cook something like Spaghetti with no meat in the sauce and serve a side dish of just meatballs.
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Oh yes, but precious little actual Bible was Taught. The Words BORN AGAIN, never came up. Yes, and during to Summer, I went to LSV (Lutheran Service Volunteers.) What I saw was mostly Pep Talk about being a good Lutheran. And a few times, I when to the Pastor with questions about what a...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    No exactly, I was questioning How an Animal can have a Soul (spark of Life that will die later), which is not the same as Holman's Dictionary defines the Soul in Humans. Now it seems somebody embellished the meaning somewhere or another, and added something that the BIBLE DID NOT SAY. New...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Not if you use the correct Definition of what Soul really is. It is the spark of life in the Human Being. Most people believe it has something to do with Human Spirit, but it is not. Genesis 9:12 (HCSB) 12 And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between Me and you and...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Are you a Jehovah Witness ? ? ? If not, tell us what denomination do you support ? ? ? I support a non-denominational, Evangelical Church, and totally believe in their Doctrinal Statement.
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Not in my BIBLE, it is NOT SILENT. Let me show you: 1 Corinthians 15:42-47 (NASB) 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    It is not part of your Eternal Life, even animals had the soul which will die. I guess it could be called the spark of life temporarily. HOWEVER, at the rapture or the resurrection we get a GLORYIFIED BODY that already has ETERNAL LIFE in it. There was a lot confusion in the Translating the...