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Our Hope and our Destiny: The Prophetic Word tells us how the Lord will save and protect His people during His terrible Day of wrath, the soon to happen Sixth Seal judgement of the nations. Then we will be gathered and will migrate into all of the holy Land. Psalms 107, Ezekiel 34:11-16 and...

Yes, this is a good discussion. OzSpen; At death, our spirit returns to God, who gave it. There is no verse that says it will be conscious, with the exception of the souls of the martyrs, who are allowed to ask when the Lord will avenge them. Sleep, is the word used, which has the connotation of...

Very good, Wormwood, you make good points. I still contend that there is no consciousness after death, until the Day of Judgement at the GWT. I base this belief primarily on how the souls of the martyrs, kept under the Altar in heaven are allowed to cry out, Rev 6:9-11, and again at Rev 9:1-3...

Psalm 40:4-11 Happy is the one who puts his trust in the Lord and keeps away from arrogant and deceitful people. Say to the Lord: Here I am, my desire is to do Your will. Your Law is in my heart and I proclaim God’s faithfulness and His saving power to all the congregation. You Lord...

Consciousness after death? Psalm 146:4 says thoughts perish at death. This cannot refer to a body without the soul, since a physical body alone does not have thoughts. Only the soul has thoughts, and they perish…. Many other passages [such as Psalm 6:5 and 30:9] support soul sleep and do not...

Bad to you, ignoring proof that you are wrong! Call death 'soul sleep' or whatever, the truth is all the dead are not conscious and only know anything when they stand before the Lord at the Great White Throne Judgement. Any other idea, theory or fanciful notion is false.

True Christians do have the promise of eternal life; provided they remain strong in their faith. They die in the natural and they are then outside of time, so the next thing they will be conscious of will be standing before the Lord at the GWT Judgement. No, for we who are alive, time passes...

I sympathize with those who have only been taught the rapture. Many haven't even heard of an alternative, let alone the truth of God's plans for His people. Their teachers will get a more severe judgement. James 3:1 I make no claims of 'all knowledge', exception the knowledge found in the Bible...

This message in Joel is repeated by Peter in Acts 2:19-21 I will show signs in the sky and on the earth; blood, smoke and fire. The sun will go dark and the moon will glow blood red before the terrible Day of the Lord arrives. Everyone who calls on the Name of the Lord on that Day, shall be...

This thread seems to be fairly evenly divided between those who believe in a rapture removal to heaven, before any dramatic world disasters and those who do not believe in a rapture. I do not believe that God has planned to take His people to heaven at any time and I have written many posts and...

Isaiah 49:8-13 The Lord says: At the time of My favour, I will answer you, on the Day of Deliverance I will come to your aid. Your destiny is to be a light to the nations and you will restore the Land. Those in exile will go free, they will find a good Land to live in. My people will neither...

Quite correct, you have the promise of eternal life now, and provided you maintain your faith you will receive it at the GWT. Greek verbs? So what; it is the basic meaning and the logical understanding that counts. NT teaching: Hebrews 9:27 our lot is to die once, with Judgement to follow...

This is practically unintelligible. Re the 'second death', this applies to the martyrs resurrected at Jesus' Return. Rev 20:4-6 They simply come to life again, just like Lazarus did and they may or may not die again, but they have the absolute assurance of eventual immortality at the GWT...

The promise given to believers in John 3:18 & 36 Is only that, a promise. Are you immortal now? Just like me, you could die tomorrow. And you will know nothing, Eccl 9:5, until you stand with the rest of the dead at the Great White Throne. THEN, provided you have continued in faith; not...

Glad you agree that people die and then comes the end, regardless of when death occurs; today or 6000 years ago. Just as Revelation 20:11-15 and Daniel 7:9-10 state. But where do you get that we arrive in the Kingdom? Hebrews 9:27 It is appointed unto men once to die and then comes the...

But why can't we know what the Lord has planned for our future? Paul says we Christians should not be in the dark. 1 Thess 5:4 Why has God given us so much prophecy; nearly 1/3 of our Bibles? What IS our problem in understanding what the Prophets wrote? Here is a clue: Isaiah 29:9-12 and 2...

The verses I quoted made it plain: Eternal life does not come to anyone until the end, that is; at the Great White throne Judgement, when the Book of life will be opened. It is quite illogical to think that God will confer immortality before that time. Note that there will be death during the...

Sorry to upset anyone. But these issues are all related and Far too many of those who should be 'watchmen' are failing in their duty at best and teaching false doctrines at worst.

Satan’s Playground;“ Modern Day Religion” One of the main reasons that modern day Christians are not eagerly preparing for God’s great harvest is a belief that the theory called ‘the rapture’ is God’s cure all in man’s existence. This scripturally unsupportable belief of a removal of living...

The word translated as 'watchman' is the Hebrew word 'nazar'. [Strongs - H 5144, a set apart people, consecrated, a priest or Nazarite. ] This is the root word for 'Nazarene', the name used in all the Middle East for Christians. So, basically we Christians are all 'watchmen for God.