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Kriss, just to let you know Im not accusing anyone of anything here. Just trying to understand why certain verses say the things they do. Rev 16 and 20 seem to be stumbling blocks on both sides- seeing as how you all have to add to it- and I take it as it is. Im not claiming ive got it figured...

(kriss;58475) OK, tell me if you see some regular guy performing miracles and claiming to be christ are you going to worship him or just think he is doing some magic tricks and lost his mind? Im telling you he will fake christ second coming the whole world wonders after the beast he will be seen...

(tim_from_pa;58468) No, I win. I'm the last to post even though I'm second. Wrong Tim, It is I who has clealy taken home the gold

(kriss;58466) If you can not yet see how this all fits together like a glove and makes all scripture about this clear just set it aside... It will come ... Im more concerned that you all understand he that comes first is the fake reguardless of who you think he is The only reason this matters is...

(kriss;58463) Because Isa. tells us the man is lucifer the book also tells us that Satan is kicked from heaven it also tells us Only one wants to set himself above God. He wants to be God he has always wanted to be god sense the day he rebelled. God only has one enemy he has batteled from the...

(thesuperjag;58459) The book is full of titles...even God explains His own symbolic. Star is a title, Tree of (fill in the blank) is a title, serpent is a title, dogs is a title, scrorpions is a title... thats not what I asked....where does it ever say that the 3 names in Rev are just titles...

(kriss;58457) Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. Now if you read Isa14:12-16 you will see this man is Lucifer who deceived the nations these verse's in Isa...

(thesuperjag;58455) They are titles, not person. says who?

(kriss;58451) So you dont believe Isa 14: 12-16 that Lucifer is the man? What man the man of sin in 2 thess that son of Perdition (again there is only one Son of perdition) judged to be utterly destroyedand who is this man he is the beast the number of his name is 6 6 6 Satan if you read the...

(tomwebster;58450) Yes, the "and" is there and it is a polysyndeton. The book is full of them. Oh ok, the ol' lets not trust in the english translation trick again? Everytime something doesnt add up- we claim the Spirit of Truth was a lousy translator. It says three not one.

(kriss;58444) God expects us to read more than one verse He tells you who the man is in Isa.14:12 he is lucifer a study on Satans names in scripture will give all his names, he would have expected that read rev 12 He says if you have wisdom you will figure out who the is man its the man of sin...

(thesuperjag;58442) You know I love you, but it appears to me that you are being hit by two sides and YOU are THE ball. I have been there before... scriptures never say that Satan is three people, nor does it talk about God being three people. Exactly

(tomwebster;58440) Of course it doesn't line up with the Trinity, but many will see it and think that it is the trinity. Many people, the vast majority of the Christian Church is going to be deceived by the imitation. And they, Christians, are going to bow down and worship at his feet (=...

In Rev. 16:13 we see:Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophetThree unclean spirits...later in Chapter 20, two of three are already in the lake of fire. If they were...

(1 of 3 Martyrs;58425) This is classic because I had forgotten about that verse, but what is funny is that it again disproves your doctrine.Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the...

(thesuperjag;58395) Yea, I feel the same way as Red, because of I Timothy 6:12, however, with best friends that Christ give...surely we can trust other people, but first check it out with I John 4:1 to see if they are of God or not. Right Jag, but I believe interpretations are the beginning of...

(kriss;58391) Red heres scripture to prove what we saidRev11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.This is the two wittness's he killsRev 13:18 Here is wisdom...

(tomwebster;58378) Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the...

(tomwebster;58374) Unfortunately, 1 of. this isn't a game. It will be the difference between following Christ or following the antichrist. No it wont, in the sense Hes talking about, It will be whether following the Antichrist was actually following Satan in flesh.Again, please explain why Rev...

(1 of 3 Martyrs;58357) Tom you skipped right over Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not...