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Here is a tip chop......both the elect and all other flesh come out of the tribulation togther....how is your tribulation shortened from 1260 days when you still have the elect after the tribulation going through cosmic calamities....i mean really where has the great tribulation actualky been...

You seem to be a little slow.....you just said after the great tribulation the whole point of your argument is the great tribulation is shortend for the elects so they dont endure the entire length of the great tribulation....yet after thebgreat tribulation the saints still carry on enduring the...

Doesnt shock me but I am interested to hear who you think the bride is

Ok....then answer this for me Prewraths have the following order, you have the great tribulation then after that comes the shaken of heaven and stars falling then the sign of the son of man then the son of man appears Have a look here. Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the distress of those...

All you are asking me really is to be PC about the matter. The words false and incorrect are really interchangeable words. Something is either true (correct) or False (incorrect). There is no offence to be found here. Its very simply, the eschatological doctrines of pretrib, mid trib, prewrath...

Lol could you be anymore vain....you really love yourself hey Also a bit of walking contradiction

Trekson, I have in the past extended my hand out twice to marcus to only have that spat back....hence im not surprised I see the same volatile attacks on others by him. Im sorry there is nothing in Marcus I see that comes from Christ....all I see is the same vanity satan has. Isaiah 14 12...

No Marcus does tend to lie abit, though its true i sent him a private message which stated you can dish it out but you cant handle it back.....is hardly a threatining message...I have issues with false teachers and will expose them...Marcus is one of them

See marcus here is another hebrew idionism Let me break it down for you The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever." The nations...

By the way Marcus just a little tip...perhaps start learning hebrew eschatology than the western concept of eschatology...hmmm? Perhaps start with this Tribulation 10 days....this is what is called a Hebrew idionism...

Lets see im reading im reading....nope nothing here that refutes my postion...just more antichrist vial....from a Pharisee As explain neither you nor the pretribs can boast a literal resurrection and rapture in your eschatology....thats a little damning to say the least... Where as my...

Please stop trying to play a sweet little victim here...if you cant handle people attacking your doctrine why do you do it to others? See remember this is where I told you...you can dish it out but you cant handle it back...case in point??? Again let me repeat do you not inderstand the greek...

Yes I can its in complete violation of Gods ordained biblical feasts that gives the order of our wedding. Its also in complete violation of a number not one but a host of prophetic templates given in the OT one of them being the battle of Jericho Debated with you a number of times you lack any...

Again do you not understand the greek proposition?

Please spare me your contradictions...you attack others but heaven forbide anyone expose your false antichrist nonsense. Even Christ lost his temper with pharasies. Now I asked where is your evidence the rapture is in Rev 7:9?

No where does it state they are resurrected or raptured....if that is your resurrection and rapture where is the rest of the church? Since we are told the multitude come out of the great tribulation. Secondly I do not buy the proof positive reliance on Rev 4, simlpy because John is taken to...

This is calling the kettle black.....Marcus since you alone are the greatest biblical scholar than the apostles...please explain to me exactly where does it state the great multitude are raptured? Please dont be simple by stating they are standing before the thrown as proof.....the souls under...

There is no difference, like wise there is no difference between a dead in christ and any other dead in christ For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. The...

Arrogence at its finest