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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    I can't see where giving you a basic lesson in Greek grammar has changed anything, certainly not drastically. Are you against the Greek and Hebrew texts? Every single translator has had to use these Greek and Hebrew texts in order to translate. And, as you are already aware, there are a...
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    Theos in Greek is a Noun. It has Case, Gender, Person and Number. It also has Determiners, such as the Definite article, (or lack of). Theos also has a semantic range of definition, (more than one definition/usage). Usually the "Context" determines the definition. So, Theos does not have...
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    One really needs to pay attention to grammar. Unless you understand how grammatical terms are used you will continue going around this mountain.
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    Thank you Anastacia for these excellent observations, and they do add depth to this discussion and that is what we need. John said of Jesus, "And The Word became flesh and dwelt among us". Prior to the incarnation, Jesus was not flesh and bones but was going to be The Father's Logos, (Divine...
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    Ducky, I don't know how much clearer I can be. I have explained over and over who I believe Jesus is through the use of terms that in the original language. I have never denied that death & haides/ghehenah exists for the ungodly and the unbeliever. I know what you have been saying about Jesus...
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    Nice try Jacob, but I am not a JW. Never was never will be. It's not unusual for even the their translators to come up with the same textual conclusions. However, my quote was: "but of the Son (he says,) Your throne, O God, [The Father], is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is...
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    Yes they are as they all reference The Father. Context Ducky, always context: John 20:17-29 17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, [Mary], for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your...
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    No he did not: "but of the Son (he says,) Your throne, O God, [The Father], is for ever and ever; And the sceptre of uprightness is the sceptre of thy kingdom" . "You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, [The Father], your God, [your Father], has anointed you With the...
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    Anastacia, I do wish to answer your questions as they are very good. First, as to the section I posted from Robertson. The Greek analysis is not necessary for Believers to apprehend God and our LORD Jesus Christ. However, since this is a debate forum and there are some who either can not or...
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    I apologize Anastacia. Jesus is referring to the incarnate Logos of His Father. Jesus knew who he was, what he was comprised of. I keep referring to The Father's Logos as John has said. This section of Scripture is not meant to draw a picture of Jesus Christ the man, walking around with...
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    I wish more people understood literary device? "The image eikoon (NT:1504). In predicate and no article. On eikoon (NT:1504), see 2 Cor 4:4; 3:18; Rom 8:29; Col 3:10. Jesus is the very stamp of God the Father as he was before the Incarnation (John 17:5) and is now (Phil 2:5-11; Heb 1:3). Of...
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    It would be good if the true significance of a Theophany was thoroughly realized. A manifestation of God, carrying His authority. You would bow down as well just like Daniel did. Or perhaps you believe that Jesus needed Michael's help against the Prince of Persia? Dan 10:7-11: I, Daniel...
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    Care to explain yourself Jacob? You said that "Jesus was alive in heaven before he came to earth as the Son". Nothing in any Scripture I know of states or implies anything of the kind. The Plan of Salvation was in the Mind of God prior to creation. That included God's, (The Father's), plan...
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    What has been confused here is the personal name of God, the nature of God and the origin and nature of Jesus Christ. Something the Oneness group has thoroughly missed.
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    Yes He is. But John is not bringing Him into perspective until verse 14 so as not to confuse Jesus with The Father. John is very careful to keep God as The Father and Jesus Christ as His Son, in whom The Father has placed His Logos, (WORD). No, I am not a Catholic.
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    No. Gen 18:1-2; "The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. YHWH in Hebrew, Theos in Greek, Not Logos. God appears in a number of places as a...
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    Ignatius sowed the seeds of what was to become the Eastern, (Greek), and Western, (Latin), Catholic organizations, (cathlicos means universal church). Both the Greek and Latin churches grew from there. In John 1, John does not introduce Jesus until verse 14. Up until then he is explaining God...
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    The early catholic church actually started with Ignatius of Antioch, (100 AD). He was the first to use the Greek term and the first to use the concept of one Bishop over all . John 1:1-3; "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the...
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    God = One as Spirit, (not "a" spirit), Holy, Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Supreme in Divinity, Authority. Father of Creation, being perceived by what was made and by "The Spirit", (i.e. Himself), made Himself understood through His Word, (Logos).
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    Solving the mistery of the trinity.

    Anastacia, most who call Jesus, God, don't really mean that He is The Father but don't have any other word to use to acknowledge Him as LORD and Savior, part and parcel of the Godhead. Since the early church couldn't find an appropriate way to express who Jesus is and identify the Holy Spirit...