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Your false doctrines are still just as false as they were when we begain. REad this again: as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There are Jews, there is the Church and there are the Nations - THREE groups we need to keep straight in our end time doctrines. It is...

Paul said, "Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord?" (1 Cor 9:1) An apostle had to be a witness of the resurrection of Christ. Paul is NOT setting up qualifications of Apostles! He is just stating a fact. I do not accept much of Baptist doctrine along these lines, because...

You can choose to be ignorant still...as you have been. Paul wrote of the pretrib rapture. It is your choice to not believe Him. (1 Corinthians 14:38) If you choose not to obey Luke 21:36, you certainly have that right. But why be like the Pharisees? You don't want to know the truth, and you...

So you think that from the days of Adam to today, God has always dealt with man the SAME WAY? If so, you need to start over with your ABC's. Did you never read Paul, where for many years there was NO LAW for any human to break, yet from ADam to Moses, all died, because of sin. That was a...

He was speaking to HIS APOSTLES! Did you miss that point? Again, go back to Daniel 9 and see WHO the 70th week is for: Daniel tells us it was for HIS PEOPLE. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It is NOT ABOUT the church at all, it is about the JEWS. Your blinders (preconceptions) have...

Veteran, sometimes you are absolutely comical! The pretrib rapture was first taught by PAUL! And you have totally missed it. There IS bible proof, but you have chosen to IGNORE it. You know as well as I do that the great crowd too large to number is in chapter 7. What you seem to ignore is that...

How would we detect a false apostle? BY THEIR FRUITS YOU SHALL KNOW THEM. I have seen prophets do a MARVELOUS job of calling out every hunting person in a service and ministering to them with very accurate prophecies. But then at offering time, He tried to prophesy money from us to him. That was...

Lamad had written: ..OF COURSE Jesus comes right after the 7th vial that ends the "trib" or 70th week, but no IMMEDIATELY after; there will be TIME for the wedding and supper in heaven BEFORE He gets on the white horse. No pretribber denies this! We BELIEVE this. This was JOHN's Interpretation...

Preconceived glasses; preconceived theories: they are the same. When Jesus taught us about the "great tribulation" events per His Olivet Discourse, He didn't intend for us to play Russian roulette with those events He taught, and try to FORCE them to fit a doctrine of men like the fly away...

Finally some sanity brought to this thread! Thanks for a good post. OF COURSE there are prophets today, for the church is still here. OF COURSE there are apostles today, because the church is still here. And as is pointed out, it is scriptural. Lamad Ha ha! Good post, Tom!

Veteran, you need to re-study this with preconceived glasses off. All bibles shows us Jesus coming on the white horse in chapter 19, NOT IN CHAPTER 11. You are adding human reasoning to what John wrote. Jesus will NOT be coming at the 7th trumpet. That is the MIDDLE of the week, and Jesus does...

The bolded text is a MYTH. NO vial will be poured out until all 7 trumpets have sounded. NO trumpet will be sounded until all 7 seals have been broken to allow the scroll to be opened. Always remember: ANY theory that must rearrange John's God given chronology is immediately suspect and WILL...

If you don't think Rev. is chronological, then it is up to you to prove it here with scripture. And if you think the seventh seal, the seventh trumpet, and the 7th vial are the same, you need serious help! Picture a scroll rolled up, with seven seals along its edge to prevent unrolling. INSIDE...

John, I have a suggestion: take that verse that says, "my sheep hear my voice," and begin to meditate on it. Roll it over and over in your mind, hour after hour, day after day, week after week, month after month. Begin to bug God about it, as to WHY this verse is not real in your life. Determine...

Well, since you will MISS the pretrib rapture, and since you are NOT a part of one of the tribes of Israel and WON'T be sealed, you will find you FIRST HAND that these little beasties will STING like scorpions just like the bible says they do. Go ahead and put on ear muffs or hearing protection...

I could say the fastest car in GM's lineup would be the Corvette. But this does not consider there are OTHER lineups OUTSIDE of GM's cars, such as Porsche, Maserati, and lamborghini. I could say, "go get that last peach out of that basket on the table." I had prior knowledge, for just moments...

So what part of what I wrote did you disagree with? Isaiah is painting a very accurate picture of the pretrib rapture. Lamad

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal...

For someone that just read this book for the first time, they might at first believe you. But for the student of Revelation, He or she will immediatly know this is not true. Paul's last trump has absolutely nothing to do with the 7th trumpet in Revelation. Paul's trumpet is GOD'S trumpet...

John, do you say these things to cover up the fact that YOU don't hear from God? We ALL should be hearing His voice.