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Have you read the Bible for yourself?? It doesn't seem like you are very familiar with it if you need to go outside the Bible to find the word Zion. I don't know anything of the book of Mormon, BUT, I do know that Zion is mentioned 153 times in the Old Testament of the Bible!! Just saying...

G859 from Strong's Concordance aphesis af'-es-is From G863; freedom; (figuratively) pardon: - deliverance, forgiveness, liberty, remission. Total KJV occurrences: 17

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Solid, crucial, and powerful message!

Thank-you, Episkopos! I got a lot out of your explanations!

Thank-you, Epi. May God bless you!

Yeah, I'm still reading through the threads....I got though 3 of them last night, but there is still a 64 page thread that I haven't started yet. It takes time!! From what I did read I didn't have a problem with what he said, but I did have a problem with some responses that others made....and...

Sadly, in my searching I found this...perhaps I should answer you with your own words... hmmm.... :(

....or it could be because I've never done a search before....(and didn't know how)!! ....but I followed your instructions....

This???? (Taken from "a search of "hindu girl" on epis' threads"). "Imagine a little girl in Bangladesh, her parents are Hindu. To honour her parents, she does whatever Hindus do. She lives a poor life and dies in poverty in a drought. God in His mercy sees the girl...a girl who suffered her...

What do you mean by that??? ...ouch!! I just asked if it had to do with the verse, "Children obey your parents", and I asked because that verse was drilled into my head as a kid!!

I haven't looked it up but does it have to do with EPH 6:1-3 “Children, obey your parents because you belong to the Lord, for this is the right thing to do. 'Honor your father and mother.' This is the first commandment with a promise: If you honor your father and mother, 'Things will go well for...

That's quite an accusation!!! I would need to see you quote Epi to prove what YOU are saying about him. It sounds more like you are twisting his words to bring attention to yourself. Show me the proof!! :backtop: In case you all have forgotten....the thread was about a book I was reading...

You did not address this... you went on to say.... To be born again, one must draw God's attention, no?? How do we draw God's attention....by our faith and our deeds!!! Able succeeded to draw God's attention, now we must also do so in order to be born again, to be born of the Spirit. So, I...

...and you didn't, yet you still posted Who's rejecting the gospel of Christ?? Don't we?? The deed of repentance, the deed of loving God, and the deed of loving your neighbour as yourself. The deed of Able's sacrifice received God's attention and God's favour. So, the question is are you...

Who is disregarding the dire need for faith in Christ??

1 Cor. 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.

Can we just stick to the topic please?

My thought on this is that absolutely everything is new (after the second benefit or being in the promised land) so it would be a step by step walking by faith (not by sight) (never been here before---this is so amazing and miraculous that I don't want to mess this up kind of mentality...the...

I appreciate your answer but this doesn't clarify you calling the man a liar!! Are you saying this man is subject to your weaknesses?? (It was 100plus years ago, so the women didn't dress the same then as now). Could that be the difference???