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  1. Illuminator

    I will build my church, and the GATES of Hades will not overcome it.

    In any case, no one is required to do it here and that's the problem with this forum. What annoys me to no end is false histories presented as truth with no referencing whatsoever.
  2. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    Dismantling one lie after another is a waste of time. Good bye.
  3. Illuminator

    Where does the Pope get his authority?

    A non-reply to post #15 because it has you stumped. Who killed the first 27+ popes? You run every time I bring this historical FACT up. You inject into the discussion a false history invented by cults. They have no credibility. You latch on to their lies because it meets some sick need. Again...
  4. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    Another stupid, arrogant insult that we are sick of hearing.
  5. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    Your Messianic friend is wrong. 136 years before the Council of Nicaea Saint Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons, and a disciple of Saint Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John, proclaimed that all churches must be in unity with the Church of Rome, which was established by Peter and Paul. To...
  6. Illuminator

    How did Paganism get into the church?

    It's no eye opener, it's stupid and insulting to all of Christianity. @The Learner exposes the book in post #72, 78, and 79 as a pack of lies that you vainly try to bury. An honest and solid critique of this book...
  7. Illuminator

    The Origins of Christmas ~PART 1

    Wrong. Saturnalia was originally a season to mark the end of autumn planting, it was not any fixed date. Any farmer will tell you planting or harvesting is not done on a fixed date. The emperor Aurelian made Saturnalia a fixed date by law in 274 A.D., to detract from the Christians who were...
  8. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2019/02/55-critiques-of-john-calvin-introduction-master-list.html
  9. Illuminator

    Where does the Pope get his authority?

    Jesus changed Simon bar Jonah's name to ROCK and it stuck throughout the rest of the NT. Mark 3:16; John 1:42 – Jesus renames Simon “Kepha” in Aramaic which literally means “rock.” This was an extraordinary thing for Jesus to do, because “rock” was not even a name in Jesus’ time. Jesus did this...
  10. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    Yes, there are many indicators supporting it, your problem is you can't find the words "apostolic succession" in the bible, so you automatically conclude it's not there. I gave a proof text: The role of apostolic succession in preserving true doctrine is illustrated in the Bible. To make sure...
  11. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    I said nothing about forgiving sins in the OT. I said there was a three fold order of priests carried over to the NT. Evidently, you don't read my links. "For others it's apostolic succession and priests instead of the priesthood of EVERY believer." is WRONG because there is no "instead of"...
  12. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    What is inaccurate is the false dichotomy in the statement "For others it's apostolic succession and priests instead of the priesthood of EVERY believer." The Bible doesn't pit one against the other. Obviously. John the Baptist is off topic. What you need to do is justify the abolishment of...
  13. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    The first Christians had no doubts about how to determine which was the true Church and which doctrines the true teachings of Christ. The test was simple: Just trace the apostolic succession of the claimants. Apostolic succession is the line of bishops stretching back to the apostles. All over...
  14. Illuminator

    Can Priests Forgive Sin?

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2017/01/apostolic-succession-biblical-arguments.html
  15. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    "instead of"??? Our Protestant brethren are sometimes critical of the Catholic priesthood, pointing to passages in the New Testament that describe Christians in general as a “royal priesthood” or “a kingdom of priests.” This leads to the concept frequently referred to in Protestant circles as...
  16. Illuminator

    How did Paganism get into the church?

    Amazon gave no info on the book so I went to the author's web page. I found this: Institutional Church This term refers to a religious system (not a particular group of people). An institutional church is one that operates primarily as an organization that exists above, beyond, and independent...
  17. Illuminator

    Peter the Rock?

    The Catholic doctrine of the papacy is biblically based, and is derived from the evident primacy of St. Peter among the apostles. Like all Christian doctrines, it has undergone development through the centuries, but it hasn’t departed from the essential components already existing in the...