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  1. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: The Scriptures uses the word "justified." We are justified by the blood of the cross. Romans 3:24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption [payment] that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the {{{shedding of...
  2. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    No one disagrees that we are justified by grace through faith. The disagreement you are having with the Gospel is that justification is through Christ's shed blood on the cross, which is received by faith. Romans 3:23-25 (NIV) 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and...
  3. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    For the second time, I never mentioned anything about punishment. However, Lord Jesus did become a curse for us, to redeem us from the curse of the Law. Galatians 3:13 (WEB) Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us. For it is written, “Cursed is everyone who...
  4. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    The Scriptures uses the word "justified." We are justified by the blood of the cross. Romans 3:24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption [payment] that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the {{{shedding of his blood}}} —...
  5. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Romans 3:23-24 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; That is not how the Scriptures teach about God's grace. Rather, God is justly free to forgiven sins because payment was made for all...
  6. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    The Scriptures teach throughout, as Gospel, that forgiveness is possible because God's justice was satisfied by the death of His Son for all sins. Christ’s death did satisfy God’s justice. Romans 3:23-25 (NIV) 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified...
  7. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I believe the point he was making is that Christ's atoning sacrifice is the redemption (payment) for all sins, and is given to all who believe (John 3:16). I did not mention anything about punishment; rather, the point made here is that Christ atoning death on the cross is the redemption...
  8. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    The sacrificial death of Lord Jesus is the atoning sacrifice - the payment (redemption) for all sins, but only those who believe receive that redemption of Christ's atoning sacrifice. Romans 3:21-26 (NIV) 21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the...
  9. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Amen!
  10. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    God himself, and His Word, are guilty of your condemnation. Luke 4:18-19 (WEB) 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because {{{He}}} has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. {{{He}}} has sent me to heal the broken hearted, to proclaim release to the captives, recovering of sight to the...
  11. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I agree with most of what you stated here. Lord Jesus definitely became that eternal propitiation (atonement) for sin. The sacrifices made before Christ' sacrifice were only temporary atonement measures. Hebrews 2:17 (WEB) 17 Therefore he was obligated in all things to be made like his...
  12. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    That is your belief, but I will stick with God's Word. The fact is many do resist the Spirit (Acts 7:51-52) and the Word (Romans 10:17-21), and so, remain condemned (John 3:18). God's kind intention, regarding salvation, is to have mercy on all because all have sinned (Romans 11:32). Romans...
  13. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    No Christian of any persuasion disagrees that the Father draws them. How does the Father draw us? He draws us by the prophetic Gospel Call to salvation (Romans 10:17-18; Romans 1:16-17), and the convicting power of the Spirit (John 16:8). The drawing is not irresistible, because many do...
  14. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    John wrote his letter to Believers, calling them "born of God" (1 John 5:1, 4), "children of God" (1 John 3:1), "beloved" (1 John 2:7), "my little children" (1 John 2:1), and so forth. 1 John 2:28 And now, little children, remain in him, so that when he appears we may have confidence and not...
  15. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    The Epistles are written to the Churches - assemblies of believers. No, I do not believe God ever contradicts himself. 1 Timothy 1:19 (WEB) 19 “holding faith and a good conscience, which some having thrust away “made a shipwreck” (Greek: enauagēsan) concerning {{{THE faith}}}” 1 Timothy 4:1...
  16. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    You bring up some good questions, and I am going to respond the best I can by Scripture. If it is true that the true believer will remain - guaranteed - what do we do with all the instruction and warnings in the Epistles given to the Believers about remaining faithful, about falling away...
  17. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    First of all, the believer receives the Spirit as a seal. The guarantee of the seal is only for the true believer, not those who fall from the faith, practicing sin. However, as we will see, the Spirit still dwells in the Christian who fell away, but the guarantee of Life is lost. All the...
  18. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    If a person is truly led by the Spirit, then he is living by the Spirit (Romans 8:12-13), walking by the Spirit (Romans 8:3-4; Galatians 5:16, 24-25), sowing to the Spirit (Galatians 6:7-9) so he may have life in the Spirit. Unfortunately, not every Christian continues to live, walk, and sow to...
  19. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Hi. Yes, this is so very clear to understand from God's Word if a person does not ignore or try to re-interpret what God plainly stated by His Prophets and Apostles. To this day, I am still amazed how professing Christians can look at the Scriptures being quoted and still do not understand...
  20. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God 1 John 2:5 (WEB) 5 But God’s love has most certainly been perfected in whoever keeps his word.