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I think we can reverse this. Is there such a thing as ES, if so why so? If it's by genuine faith in Jesus, forgiveness of sins, reconciliation to the Father then what? That's where discipleship must come in. What it actually means to walk the walk, be a follower of Jesus, a disciple.

What about Matthew 25:31-33 The Son of Man Will Judge the Nations 31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd...

Amen and another Amen.

What I find sad is that it is preached that place your faith in Jesus and you will be saved. People do that then they are taught to go through hoops to maintain it. The church brings in sinners then condemns them when they sin whilst being in the church. It's about getting people through the...

Ephesians 2:8-10 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

Good works being judged but still saved as through the fire?

John 6:29 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”

Back at ya precious sister.

I totally agree with you, wanting to be like Jesus. Peter had to learn to go from Phileo to Agape.

Pleased to meet you. Are you saying that the above saves us? Or are you saying that the above is evidence of genuine saving faith?

Conditional upon what?

Philippians 1:6 6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ; 1 Corinthians 1:8-9 8 He will keep you strong to the end so that you will be free from all blame on the day when our Lord Jesus Christ returns. 9 God...

And I’m in the queue as well.

And that's the truth and that should be our focus. Rely and focus on Jesus and what he has done.

Are you saying that the story of A&E is a myth?

Wow you raise a very interesting point here. Genesis 2:15-17 15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and...

Couple of big words that I don't understand. Amen to your post. All about love.

Hi Aspen, I would say that God has given us free will. I think with Adam & Eve they had free will and they chose to disobey God. Would you not say that choosing to be selfish is evil? Even as believers. Mind you I suppose that depends on what one considers to be evil. I love your focus about...

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. It seems to me that it is you who has taken offence and boy have you so. I can't see you responding to my response to you that I was just asking for clarification after you came back at me accusing me of being easily offended and if the shoe fits wear it. I was seeking...

I was just seeking clarification. Nope I don't consider myself important.